Iā€™m an ex incel myself, but Iā€™ve been seeing a few users here exhibiting the tell tale signs. ā€œIā€™m not attractive enoughā€, ā€œI donā€™t socialize correctlyā€, ā€œIā€™ll never find a womanā€ - all extremely unhealthy attitudes.

Personally I burned through many friendships and ruined a lot of chances with women because I was in the incel community. The community warped my view of women so much that I made it even harder to meet women, I became my own worst enemy. I lost friends because all I could think of was how horrible it was that they had girlfriends.

I have a friend who helped me out of it. She was the one who started calling out my bad behavior for what it was, and I started on the long uphill path out of it. Iā€™m now married and stable for well over a decade, but I still think back to those days, and it depresses me seeing other people causing this themselves and not being aware of it.

So, Lemmy, for those who have clawed out of it, whatā€™s your story?

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Basically what you seem to be saying is that as long as you can connect in some way like shared interests and desires, they could be a good partner. They donā€™t have to be a superstar model for you to have a connection and also enjoy being intimate with them, which could easily be a strong enough motivation to spend the rest of your lives together or even end up starting a family. You could definitely fall in love with them.

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Yeah basically! Thereā€™s a reason most romantic comedies end with them starting to date. Itā€™s because thatā€™s the zany exciting bit. After that part, the next 40 years or whatever is a roommate who lives in your home with you, and you do taxes together, and you eat dinner together, and you go to your shared friendā€™s homes to hang out, and maybe you teach weird little gremlins how to be humans, and you talk after work about how your day went, and what youā€™re planning to do in the future.

And that stuff can be great! But looking like a model doesnā€™t make that stuff much better. Even people who live with models probably ā€œget over itā€ pretty quick. You canā€™t be in awe 18 hours a day every day for 15 years. But, having a shared foundation of experiences and mutual respect does make those things easier. Liking each otherā€™s friends does too.

You can learn to love someone, and you can learn to find an attractive person unattractive through interaction.

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