During a recent episode of The Verge’s Decoder podcast, Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber shed some possible insight into the company’s view on one of its most important products. Saying that “the mouse built this house,” Faber shares the planning behind a Forever Mouse, a premium product that the company hopes will be the last you ever have to buy. There’s also a discussion about a subscription-based service and a deeper focus on AI.

For now, details on a Forever Mouse are thin, but you better believe there will be a catch. The Instant Pot was a product so good that customers rarely needed to buy another one. The company went bankrupt.

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239 points

premium mouse that receives constant updates

Come on. How many firmware updates can we really expect for a mouse?

I’ve had an m570 for about 10 years. Every time it broke, I fixed it. Why do we need a subscription?

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This from a company who refused to update their drivers for a USB speaker system for 7, even though it was still actively being sold at stores.

I had bought it a few months earlier at a Fry’s, on sale. I think the sku was just about 2 years old, just expiring on their support policy, as a new OS dropped.

Their customer support told to me kick sand.

Fuck Logitech. Their Mice are the only thing I’ve continued to use because they are actually reliable. But now they’re trying to enshitify that behind a subscription, so that’s it.

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35 points

How many firmware updates can we really expect for a mouse?

Almost none, why the hell would a mouse ever need firmware updates except to fix fuckups? It has one job, translate clicks and movements into signals for the computer.

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24 points

I used an HP dead stock “this ships with every computer we sell” optical mouse for twenty years before it broke.

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4 points

All my mice are similar ages, even my Logitech wireless.

I did just have a 15 year old one die, but it got used about 8 hours a day all that time.

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223 points

This is not about you, but about them. It’s not that you need a subscription. It’s that they need you to have a subscription.

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48 points

But they need to convince me that the subscription is worthwhile!

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1 point

Not if they and their competitors remove all the other options.

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38 points

But they need to convince me that the subscription is worthwhile!

They’ll remove any mice from the market that doesn’t have a subscription model and others will follow suit.

Future mouse DLC: “Special promotion! $5 discount on unlocking right mouse button!”

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88 points

If you are going to ask questions maybe you are not the target demographic.

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19 points

So Logitech can bill every one of its customers every month.

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12 points

No sale. It’s ridiculous.

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6 points

No sale.

Joke’s on you; they’re into that shit. Their techno-feudalist wet dream is to force you into rentals for everything.

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