Itโs not a dumpling. Dumplings are not stuffed pastries or stuffed pasta, dumplings are small balls of dough cooked in stew to be eaten with stew.
We donโt called pierogi dumplings either do we?
Itโs just the co-opting of a word .
Is a bagel bread or is it a dumpling, eh?
What ignorant people call dumplings are mini pies that are boiled.
Tortellini is fancy pasta.
Are hot dogs sandwiches then?
I always thought of dumplings as either dough balls, or dough balls stuffed with other things.
If served on a split long roll it is a hot dog. If you cut the roll horizontally it becomes a sub. Serve three cocktail frankfurts crosswise on a round roll and it is a burger. Sliced and served between two slices of bread it the only way it becomes a sandwich. Unless you then toast it and transform it into a toastie, or toast it in a special press and turn it into a jaffle. All completely different meals.
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Bread crumbs wrapped in bread crumbs.
A hot dog is basically meat flavoured bread.
Thatโs a very American argument. Americans, who use Simplified English, used dictionaries as a political tool in the war of independence and still do
They developed a descriptive dictionary so they can say their usage is just as valid ๐
but the rest of the world, who use Traditional English, use prescriptive dictionaries so we can have agreed upon meanings and usage.
I can promise you that words changing meaning over time is not an โAmerican Argumentโ. Nothing to say what you mean by โAmericanโ (us, Canada, Argentina?) .
Language has changed all the time, via slang from the poorest, or the slang of the royals and powerful people throughout history.
We donโt say *dyeu anymore, to refer to the sun-god of proto-indo-european times; we say โZeusโ, โdeityโ, โdevaโ or โJupiterโ (all come from *dyeu).
So I donโt think the Americans had any say in that. Language and the evolution of language has happened endless times throughout history.
Example from Language Jones
Thatโs the joy of language and language evolution imo. Anyone ever heard of the great vowel shift haha
Yes. The stuff of dinner table conversation in the family. My mum did her masters degree on Old English and Old Norse. Dad spoke fluent cockney, english and lowland scots depending on context. Tell me about it.