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Google results are actually already pretty terrible. They just have tremendous inertia.

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I stopped using them months ago. I only notice when I’m looking for places (e.g., restaurants, barbers).

I’m not unhappy but may still shop around.

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yeah, I appreciate the push towards more privacy-centric search engines but as a result searches that are relevant to me geographically on places like startpage are next to useless. I understand why but I wish that local results were a bit better on the alternatives.

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We all keep saying this but can anybody point me to which one is better?

I invariably end up having to go back to them because the other search engines all have their own problems.

The issue is the internet is polluted with SEO and all the useful things that used to be spread out are now condensed onto places like Reddit, or places that aren’t even being indexed.

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Supposedly there’s a paid one that is good. I haven’t tried. The thing is Google is completely enshittified. They don’t have to care about you or the sites you search. So my theory is Bing is better because they are hungrier and anything that takes away market share from Google is good—but I’m fully aware that Microsoft was just as shitty as Google and will be again if they get back on top.

Everything else I know of is either just an alternate front end for one of them or an aggregator of both. So you’re right, there’s precious little alternative to Google. But it’s almost bad enough I’m ready for the return of web rings of good sites vouching for each other.

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Part 5 is where I don’t see this actually going.

Look at twitter. Now look at mastodon. Tell me which one is more shitty. Now tell me which one has something like 85% of the market, and which one most people haven’t heard of.

Just because something it better, doesn’t mean people use it. You can fit all of Lemmy in the world in one of the larger NBA size arenas. You can’t even fit twitters total user base into some smaller CITIES.

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Twitter will be dead within 1-2 years, Elon will make sure of that

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He’s already owned it for nearly two years. I’d definitely take the over on that bet. I just don’t see what Twitter could possibly do that they haven’t done already to kill it?

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God I hope you’re right, but doubt you are.

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I think the amount of people who are familiar with search engine options besides Google is quite a bit larger than the population of Lemmy. (It fuckin better be, anyway)

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I’m pretty pessimistic about this:

  1. Say no
  2. Google still scrapes your site to train their AI
  3. People don’t care that its wrong, still use Google instead of other search engines
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  1. Say no
  2. You don’t show up in Google search results
  3. You still show up in other search results
  4. Google is no longer bringing the best results
  5. People stop using your site
  6. You lose
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Unfortunately, the vast majority of people do not give a single fuck and they will use whatever is preinstalled on their device

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