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Remembering that interview with a lib podcast where said something to the effect of “Iran has a moral imperative to obtain nukes” to deter US invasion and it stunlocked the hosts
It was this incredible interview with Yahoo News’ podcast
https://youtu.be/leDn52N1nr0?t=252
It is a painful but funny listen, as well as the ep of chapo in which they listen back to and comment on the lib interviewers being insane. These are experienced even prolific lib journalists. The old guy broke a bunch of torture stories in the 2000s. But they are utterly cooked, they are more aghast at them insulting the west wing than the Iran nukes thing
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Korean historian Stephen Gowans (sp?) essentially shared this take somewhat apologetically on RevLeft Radio at the end of the interview, saying that the DPRK having developed a substantial stock of nuclear arms is the best case scenario.
My only point of disagreement there is that he said as much gingerly instead of with his whole chest. I suppose standing on business isn’t conducive to being tenured in a shithole western country though.
I believe that was Felix on the pod Jon’s podcast, Lovett or Leavitt. It was a live recording but the pod Jon edited out a bunch of stuff Felix said for the official release. You can find the crappy raw audio files from the audience though if you look hard enough