I just woke up this morning to the news that six hostages had been found dead in a tunnel in Gaza, cause of death multiple gunshot wounds at close range.
I struggle to find sympathy for Palestine after reading a story like that.
Hamas deserve no sympathy - but most Palestinians are just people, like the Israelis, living under a regime that heavily peddles dehumanizing propaganda. If we had no sympathy for the Israelis because of the Palestinians intentionally killed by their hands, we’d be going down the same route that’s currently locking the two sides into a fucking pointless race towards genocide, that Israel seems likely to ‘win’.
It’s a bit more complicated than ‘if you’re not hamas you’re automatically innocent’
Majority of Gaza has supported Hamas for decades and will likely continue to do so.
In the same vein, the majority of Israelis have supported the occupation and genocide of Palestine, and will continue to do so.
It’s not about being ‘innocent’. That’s how these blood feuds perpetuate themselves. We have to accept that, going forward, mere tribalist support for one atrocity or another is not enough to continue pursuing this pointless blood feud. We couldn’t in-good-conscience hang every Nazi after WW2, and Nazi civilians were far more deserving of the noose than the civilian populations of Gaza or Israel.
We cannot justify the murder of Israeli or Gazan civilians under the guise that they hold hate in their hearts or support a shitty side in this shitty conflict. We must narrow those who deserve retribution to the actual criminals, not the propagandized and struggling masses.
All of Palestine? You gotta refine that opinion dude, it’s ~5 million people.
It’s cool, I’m not your dad. I’m more speaking to the message than you, cause you’re just a name. I’m speaking to a bigoted, myopic message on a platform that I use. You can come or go.
Then shut the fuck up.
No, seriously. If you’re not down to have your opinions challenged in this, the gentlest possible way, keep them to yourself.
Should foreigners lose sympathy for your people as a whole, if a group whose members hailed from it do something horrible? Its not like everyday people in Palestine have much choice about what goes on there.
Ironically enough, the group that seems to be doing the most to free Palestine from the rule of Hamas is the Israeli government.
And quite frankly, I’m sceptical of the claim Palestine is suffering under a dictatorship going against the will of the people, from what I’ve seen they have a lot of support from the population.
Ironically enough, the group that seems to be doing the most to free Palestine from the rule of Hamas is the Israeli government.
Man, Israel has spent years propping up Hamas.
What does killing 40 thousand people, mostly innocent, do for your sympathies? Raping and torturing people in detention. For that matter, detention without charge? Turning off water to 2 million people? Preventing food and medical aid? No, sorry - the IDF claimed that a bad thing was done by Hamas… more genocide is clearly called for. You’re allowed to think whatever you like online, as you’ve asserted.
Palestine didn’t kill those hostages, Hamas did. Hamas deserves to die, innocents do not, and killing innocents to reach the bad guy is not justified
I respect the sentiment, but Hamas uses innocent civilians as human shields all the time. Doing what you say would allow them to attack with impunity.
If you can’t defend yourself without doing war crimes, you’re not defending yourself. You’re just using it as an excuse for war crimes.
I too find it hard to sympathize with little Hind or the poet Refaat when they murder hostages.