Highway spending increased by 90% in 2021. This is one of many reasons why car traffic is growing faster than population growth.

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“Here’s a solution”

“That solution doesn’t work for A LOT of people”

“Well you don’t think it’ll work for valid reasons you must not want anything to work ever”

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“That solution doesn’t work for A LOT of people”

Mass transit is how you create large population centers. A big reason small towns collapse stems from the degradation of their incredibly expensive per-mile asphalt system collapsing under the weight of heavy trucks and eighteen wheelers. The cost of maintaining the road infrastructure cripples the municipal budget.

Commercial Rail takes that weight off the back of the local community. And busing allows for denser housing closer to the center of town, which saves money on everything from municipal plumbing to trash pickup to public schooling to health care delivery.

Historically, small towns have relied on centrally located city services to both fuel local commerce and keep cost of living down. The death of a small town’s city center is typically the prelude to the collapse of the township on the whole. That’s a fact people who actually live in these towns are keenly aware of. But it is routinely overlooked by big city suburbanites who think everyone in the family owning a $40k personal vehicle is normal and taking the bus or the bicycle into town is something rural communities are totally unfamiliar with.

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I’m not a big city suburbanite nor can I afford a $40,000 car.

I’m not sure what small towns are collapsing under the weight of roads, though I’m sure its a problem for some.

Our biggest financial issue is an unnecessarily bloated police force. The state maintains the major roads here and many smaller roads are private, dirt, maintained by an HOA, etc. Though yes, some areas have some potholes, though not nearly as bad as those in large cities I visit like Memphis or Louisville.

Also small cities, within the town center are perfectly walkable and small enough that we don’t really need a bus. But to get to that walkable area, you need a car.

If you and your buddies want to invest and run a train though every small town in the US, I’m all for it.

However,

"Mass transit is how you create large population centers. "

Some of use don’t want large population centers or we’d live in the city and we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

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I’m not sure what small towns are collapsing under the weight of roads

A 2015 study by the Cornell Local Roads Program found that the annual cost of managing a mile of road in a handful of New York towns and cities varied from $4,429 to $10,440. Meanwhile, a 2016 analysis of Washington State’s county roads came up with a range of $1,528 to $23,651.

The ASCE’s 2017 Infrastructure Report Card notes that at least 27 states have “de-paved” roads in the past five years in order to reduce ongoing maintenance costs. In one particularly notable example, Stutsman County, North Dakota — which spends $32,000 per year on each mile of their 233-mile asphalt road network — estimates that if those same roads were de-paved, the cost per mile of maintenance would drop to just $2,600.

David Hartgen, lead author of the Annual Highway Report, notes that a few states are “really falling behind on maintenance and repairs.” And there’s an estimated countrywide road maintenance backlog of $420 billion.

Telling townships to maintain large, far flung asphalt road networks is demanding the impossible.

Our biggest financial issue is an unnecessarily bloated police force.

In biggest municipalities that’s true. But then the largest time sink for police is… traffic enforcement.

If you and your buddies want to invest and run a train though every small town in the US, I’m all for it.

Much of the rail infrastructure already exists, although cities have been cannibalizing it to expand the highway capacity for decades. Show me a small town in America that’s older than 50 years and I’ll show you the rail line that runs through it.

But getting permission to actually use it? That’s not a money problem. It’s a politics problem.

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