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Donโ€™t know why the downvotes. You are absolutely correct.

My fridge doesnโ€™t even have a screen, but it has wifi. Wifi!! You do one thing. You are a box designed to keep my food cold. I set the temperature, and I forget that exists.

Anyway, we bought it when we bought our house. The previous owner offered to include all the appliances in the contract so it was nice to not have to buy any appliances. But that refrigerator stays OFF my network.

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but think of all the frosty bitcoins you could be mining!

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you some botnet operator could be mining

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I know the real objective is mining your data and acting as an insecure node for identity thieves to access. But what is its stated objective? I have no idea why anyone would think that is a positive.

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Indeed, youโ€™re better off buying a dumb fridge and attaching your own iot device amiright

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It just sits there, silently plotting revengeโ€ฆ

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โ€œThe minute I see an unprotected WiFi your personal data is soooo screwed.โ€
โ€” the fridge, probably

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Iโ€™m OK with it for some things tbh. With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working and the temp starts rising before I have a fridge full of spoiled food. With an oven I can know if I left the house with it still running. With the washer/dryer I can get notified when I need to fold the cloths before they get wrinkled. I think connected appliances have more useful applications than people give them credit for.

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With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working and the temp starts rising before I have a fridge full of spoiled food

A built in alarm sound would achieve the same goal without running the risk of your fridge becoming part of a botnet

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Alarm is going to have to be pretty loud for me to hear it many miles away.

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Something that might happen once in ten years isnโ€™t worth the additional security surface exposure. IMO

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I have a small child. Itโ€™s not just mechanical failure. Then again, Iโ€™ve got a separate network for IoT things. They canโ€™t see anything by each other and their controller. Unfortunately, most of the IoT appliances do NOT like this setup.

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What security exposure? Any modern router has a way to isolate iot devices. Iโ€™m risking people knowing when I open my fridge?

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With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working

You can also do that with a simple smart plug with energy monitoring. You can get a 4 pack for $35.

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โ€œnot that iot device, use this one instead and get less function out of itโ€

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With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working and the temp starts rising before I have a fridge full of spoiled food.

You donโ€™t need a wifi fridge for this. My wife and I manage this via Home Assistant and cheap Switchbot sensors. Fully self contained on my network, nothing to phone home anywhere.

The rest of the things you listed are kind of silly. If you left the oven on, that sucks, but youโ€™re already gone. Also, who sets the oven on before leaving the house? Thatโ€™s just an oddโ€ฆ like, really odd thing to do. Like, senility/dementia level odd, at which point what difference is a notification? And the dryer thingโ€ฆ well, thatโ€™s nothing a 15 minute wrinkle cycle doesnโ€™t already solve on a dumb dryer.

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โ€œnot that iot device, use this one instead and get less function out of itโ€

Wrinkle cycles donโ€™t work as well as getting the laundry while itโ€™s still hot. It reduces it some but not as much as getting the laundry when itโ€™s still hot. It also wastes a fair bit of energy to run the dryer for another 15 minutes instead of just telling me when itโ€™s done.

And itโ€™s not a dementia thing, itโ€™s an adhd+generalized anxiety thing. Piece of mind is pretty valuable to me and mine.

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But if you get the app you can unlock the crisper drawer+ for only $11.99/mo and get those extra fresh veggies that you crave!

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To be fair, making a device wifi connected is stupid cheap nowadays. That being said, you bet your ass theyโ€™re harvesting data.

My parents got a fridge with a similar feature and no screen (they didnโ€™t know it had that) but I was curious and hooked it to the IOT network. Literally the only smart feature it exposed was a door open sensorโ€ฆ

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not advocating for all IoT products, but some fridges have internal cameras (allows you i remotely access and figure out what you have and dont have), and some also have product expiring tracking so that it can warn you if something is approaching thr best buy date so you can use it up soon or throw it away.

washer and dryer IoT projects to me tend to be pretty terrible.

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