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I’m OK with it for some things tbh. With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working and the temp starts rising before I have a fridge full of spoiled food. With an oven I can know if I left the house with it still running. With the washer/dryer I can get notified when I need to fold the cloths before they get wrinkled. I think connected appliances have more useful applications than people give them credit for.

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6 points

Something that might happen once in ten years isn’t worth the additional security surface exposure. IMO

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I have a small child. It’s not just mechanical failure. Then again, I’ve got a separate network for IoT things. They can’t see anything by each other and their controller. Unfortunately, most of the IoT appliances do NOT like this setup.

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What security exposure? Any modern router has a way to isolate iot devices. I’m risking people knowing when I open my fridge?

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Most people wouldn’t bother.

And the risk would be more a foothold into your network as a staging point to attack other devices, as I’m sure you know .

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6 points

With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working and the temp starts rising before I have a fridge full of spoiled food

A built in alarm sound would achieve the same goal without running the risk of your fridge becoming part of a botnet

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4 points

Alarm is going to have to be pretty loud for me to hear it many miles away.

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3 points

The notification on your phone or whatever also isn’t super useful if you’re many miles away.

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2 points

Get a bigger speaker

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With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working

You can also do that with a simple smart plug with energy monitoring. You can get a 4 pack for $35.

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“not that iot device, use this one instead and get less function out of it”

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You can get 4 ZigBee smart plugs with energy monitoring for $35. These are not IOT devices and if you just want to know if the fridge is running, these will do that, with the added benefit of allowing you to leave the fridge’s WiFi disconnected, which is a security gain.

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With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working and the temp starts rising before I have a fridge full of spoiled food.

You don’t need a wifi fridge for this. My wife and I manage this via Home Assistant and cheap Switchbot sensors. Fully self contained on my network, nothing to phone home anywhere.

The rest of the things you listed are kind of silly. If you left the oven on, that sucks, but you’re already gone. Also, who sets the oven on before leaving the house? That’s just an odd… like, really odd thing to do. Like, senility/dementia level odd, at which point what difference is a notification? And the dryer thing… well, that’s nothing a 15 minute wrinkle cycle doesn’t already solve on a dumb dryer.

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“not that iot device, use this one instead and get less function out of it”

Wrinkle cycles don’t work as well as getting the laundry while it’s still hot. It reduces it some but not as much as getting the laundry when it’s still hot. It also wastes a fair bit of energy to run the dryer for another 15 minutes instead of just telling me when it’s done.

And it’s not a dementia thing, it’s an adhd+generalized anxiety thing. Piece of mind is pretty valuable to me and mine.

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And it’s not a dementia thing, it’s an adhd+generalized anxiety thing. Piece of mind is pretty valuable to me and mine.

That’s a fair take. I dunno, the potential security vulnerabilities outweigh any possible gains for me with most IOT devices, and I feel smart appliances are just more complicated to fix and more easily break down. Plus, the last thing I need is my washer to brick or my fridge to stop working from a botched firmware update.

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