Lemdro.id

0 points

2 months ago

For starters i find it unlikely that a respiratory disease is transmitted through food. Possible sure. But by the logic of “possible” rather than “probable” we should never leave the house again.

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Flying Squid@lemmy.world

5 points

2 months ago

That’s not how viruses work. They evolve. They can become airborne. How are you not aware of this? It’s literally what happened with COVID.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2

0 points

2 months ago

First of all COVID wasn’t transmitted from eating. It was likely transmitted from animals that were still alive at that market and it was always a respiratory disease.

And then again what is your conclusion? To ban all products and activities, that have a principal possibility of transmitting diseases? Because then nothing much is left to be done. So obviously the probability needs to be a relevant factor. Which brings us back to the question if you have any source of scientists indicating that raw milk would be a relevant vector for the transmission of respiratory diseases.

As it stands it seems to me that you just dislike raw milk for some reason, which has nothing to do with it being a relevant risk for diseases to spread or not.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasteurization

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Flying Squid@lemmy.world

2 points

2 months ago

And then again what is your conclusion?

Pasteurization. The Chinese started doing it 1000 years ago, so I’m not sure why you aren’t aware of it.

As for the “some reason” why I dislike raw milk:

Milk is an excellent medium for microbial growth,[18] and when it is stored at ambient temperature, bacteria and other pathogens soon proliferate.[19] The US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) says improperly handled raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalizations than any other food-borne disease source, making it one of the world’s most dangerous food products.[20][21] Diseases prevented by pasteurization can include tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever, and Q-fever; it also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli O157:H7,[22][23] among others.

But do explain why such outbreaks should be risked for the sake of someone having a kind of milk they prefer the taste of.

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2 months ago

None of these diseases is viral. They are all bacterial. You said:

I think you need to take a basic virology course

As you have such adapt knowledge about virology: Which viral infection is transmitted through raw milk, especially one that can cause a pandemic and can you now finally provide actual scientific sources of scientists considering these an issue? Clearly you must have had these in your virology classes, where you took your in depth virology knowledge from.

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Flying Squid@lemmy.world

2 points

2 months ago

Are you now arguing that raw milk is safe and pasteurization is unnecessary because the only incredibly dangerous and infectious diseases that are spread by raw milk are bacterial or are you just trying to deflect? Because I’m thinking it’s the latter. I’m thinking you know how deadly and dangerous many of those diseases are and how they can easily spread from person to person.

Although admittedly, I could have misjudged you this entire time, thinking you were an intelligent and rational person, when in fact you are supremely ignorant. But I don’t think that is the case, I think you’re just evading.

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2 months ago

Me: Still i would like to say that i don’t think raw milk is a problematic vector for pandemics to spread. Chance is people will get the shits if hygiene is bad, but i doubt a viral pandemic to spread because of raw milk. More likely would be farm workers getting an infection over the air and then spreading it to other humans.

You: People who study viruses for a living seem to think it’s possible, but I guess as long as you doubt it, no problem.

Me: Pandemic from raw milk? Do you have a source for that?

I am still waiting for the answer on my question. And again if you have such great knowledge in virology and i am lacking such knowledge it should be easy for you to provide me with comprehensive sources supporting your claim, that “People who study viruses for a living seem to think it’s [a viral pandemic to spread because of raw milk] possible”

Putting words in my mouth and changing the goal post doesn’t change the fact that you claim knowledge about virological matters, that you refuse to support with sources.

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