Comment by ampersandrew@lemmy.world on I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

Nothing more disappointing to me than seeing a game I might enjoy… and then it’s only available on PC on Epic Games store. Why can’t it be available on Epic, Xbox game store and Steam? It’s so annoying, like you have no choice but to use Epic… which I would literally do ANYTHING not to use.

Speaking for myself, if it’s Epic only, it means I have no assurances as a customer that they’re going to keep letting me play the game on Linux. If I bought Alan Wake II, I’m doing so knowing that they don’t support my operating system and could break compatibility with Wine with any random update. If that happens on Steam, I can reasonably expect a refund if it was previously Verified, and because of the verification system, they also have an incentive not to break compatibility. So if I play Alan Wake II some day, it’ll be because it was a free giveaway on Epic, because I’m not paying for that.

Yeah, that’s true on Steam as well.

There are a whole bunch of games that actively removed compatibility with SteamOS, and Linux by extension. Apex Legends was the most recent and the most vocal about it.

That was on the developers, not the storefront, though. Epic has specifically decided they don’t give a flying fuck about Linux.

Well, you still don’t get to play it, and you sure as hell aren’t getting a refund, so I’m not entirely sure how that changes the situation at all.

… because now your weird obsession with blaming Steam for all things going wrong with gaming has less ground to stand on?

Because not having a game available is not having a game available. You still, and I can’t believe I have to type this twice, don’t get to play the stupid game.

For the record, I blamed Steam for nothing here. Some guy said he feels more assured that Steam will keep Linux compatibility, I pointed out that this is not the case. It’s not even Steam’s fault, compatibility is being dropped either for technical reasons or due to anticheat, and there is no indication that it will be any different with Epic going forward.

What they said, exactly:

If that happens on Steam, I can reasonably expect a refund if it was previously Verified, and because of the verification system, they also have an incentive not to break compatibility.

Emphasis mine.

They didn’t say it won’t happen. They said they have far more confidence that it’ll be much less likely to happen. And that they have a reasonable expectation of refund if the developer pulls that.

There are no guarantees here, but Valve has put a lot of time and effort into making Linux games work, and Epic has not. No, they can’t stop developers from pulling those stunts, but they’re no more happy about it than we are and, from everything I’ve been seeing, are actively working on getting developers to stop doing that.

Also, the anticheat excuse is mostly a lie, the ones Destiny 2, Rust, and Apex Legends use are compatible with Linux, and just require, as I understand it, checking a box and including a file in a specific spot, so those are just outright anti Linux for the sake of hating Linux and Linux gamers.

No, you see it’s different because Steam is love and Gabe is perfection, you know?

The level of quasi-religious fervor is… kind of scary. Especially given that it’s over this one billionare techbro. I mean, good for them, they have a great product and a better understanding of how to make money with only light enshittification, but still…

If and when they do something shitty, I’ll be right there with you calling them out for it, but I don’t see anything here that fits that description

Now this is a good reason.

And random note, but I didn’t get a notification for this reply?

Sorry I forgot to send it, won’t happen again, boss.

What do you mean, are you on some client that has notifications disabled by default?

Genuine fediverse noob here.

The guy you’re replying to was joking, saying they are in charge of your notifications.

Lemmy notifications depend on the client you’re using. I’m using Sync which is far from perfect with push notifs, usually they only pop up when I open the app.

I am just using the browser UI, and just mean the notifications on the site.

Sometimes I get a reply with no notification even within Lemmy, and someone else said this happens to them too.

I think sometimes they’re just slow, so you may have clicked into the thread before it found out you needed a notification. I’m not an expert though. It’s just a guess based on personal experience.

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