It appears that in every thread about this event there is someone calling everyone else in the thread sick and twisted for not proclaiming that all lives are sacred and being for the death of one individual.

It really is a real life trolley problem because those individuals are not seeing the deaths caused by the insurance industry and not realizing that sitting back and doing nothing (i.e. not pulling the lever on the train track switch) doesn’t save lives…people are going to continue to die if nothing is done.

Taking a moral high ground and stating that all lives matter is still going to costs lives and instead of it being a few CEOs it will be thousands.

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  1. this will save precisely zero lives
  2. you ignore the broader impact of allowing brazen broad-daylight murder to be endorsed by the public under any conditions. It is not just this one life
  3. insurance is a mess and I am sure this guy was a dick, and that UHC denies plenty of claims that should be accepted. But at risk of pointing out the obvious, an insurance company that never denies any claims will go bankrupt immediately, and would therefore result in many more deaths since nobody would be covered.
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Number 3 is the best argument for national insurance. (Saying public might imply it’s tradable, this isn’t what I’ve meant)

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The health insurance industry is an abomination. It’s completely across the purpose of keeping a population healthy to try to extract and concentrate wealth out of the process, and they’re dug in like a tick.

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Health care is not compatible with the free market as health care is logically something people would pay anything for.

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National insurance denies claims all the time as well in some form.

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Not to the extent of UHC

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Wish more people talked about reform than violence tbh. Thinking about leaving lemmy since associating myself with some people here makes me sick

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this will save precisely zero lives

Not if it starts a movement

It is not just this one life

See above

an insurance company that never denies any claims

Ideally that’s called free universal healthcare, which we should have

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His wife said on the news that he loved life…

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Just his own

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you ignore the broader impact of allowing brazen broad-daylight murder to be endorsed by the public under any conditions. It is not just this one life

Yes, it’s a shame the system failed to deliver justice. The solution isn’t that justice shouldn’t be served, it’s that the system needs to be fixed so people like this are killed lawfully and by the state are not in a position where they profit off of human misery.

If he was no longer a threat, I’d endorse rehabilitation, the last emperor of China, who collaborated with the Japanese in WWII ended up living out his years working menial jobs and making real connections with people.

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allowing brazen broad-daylight murder to be endorsed by the public

Are you proposing to not allow people to voice support for the murder?

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You can’t be serious 😂

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insurance is a mess and I am sure this guy was a dick, and that UHC denies plenty of claims that should be accepted. But at risk of pointing out the obvious, an insurance company that never denies any claims will go bankrupt immediately, and would therefore result in many more deaths since nobody would be covered.

Insurance companies in other countries survive just fine by paying out what they are expected to. Only in America is insurance as screwed up as it is.

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