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Prosecutors highlighted “about $10,000 — $8,000 in U.S. dollars and then $2,000 in foreign currency that was found on his person,” CNN correspondent Danny Freeman said following the court hearing.

“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.

After prosecutors made the claims, Mangione said he would like to “correct two things.”

“I don’t know where any of that money came from — I’m not sure if it was planted. And also, that bag was waterproof, so I don’t know about criminal sophistication,” the suspect said in a statement that suggested police framed him.

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195 points

A LOT of yesterday’s arrest is REALLY suspicious. Dude who could easily have fled the country (for a lot of reasons) and had done such a great job of covering his tracks is sitting in a mickey d’s with his murder weapon and a manifesto.

But… a lot of his social media history (which is not impossible to fake but…) kind of suggests he was very mentally unwell. Which… uh doy? And he is mostly focused on the money (super easy to plant) and the “faraday bag”.

As for the faraday bag? A LOT of dry bags (an internal bag you put electronics and valuables into if you are going to hike in the rain or go rafting/boating) have a metal mesh. Because they need to withstand abrasians either from being near other gear (you would be shocked how much jagged metal is in a backpack when you go on a proper alpine overnight) or just being able to survive falling overboard and bouncing on the end of a rope in rapids. And guess what a metal mesh does?

So he presumably got a dry bag of some form to stash his personal shit in while he stashed the second backpack. And I know plenty of hikers and climbers who learn the fun way that the phone they carried “in case someone needs to get a hold of me” had zero signal the entire time it was protected from the rain.

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150 points

Where is the body camera footage?

Until I see it, all of this shit fake news.

Luigi didn’t do shit. They are just trying to pin it on any Italian guy that fits their narrative

Sure he hates health insurance parasites so does 99% of US.

It ain’t a crime!

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Saying Mangione is a hero implies you’re convinced he’s the killer. Not great…

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51 points

he hates health insurance parasites so does 99% of US.

That’s a very conservative estimate.

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36 points

Statistically the 1% are benefiting from the insurance parasites.

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-5 points

Please don’t say fake news. You sound like a far right nutjob. We are better than that.

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20 points

You can call out news as being fake without being right wing buddo. All mainstream media owned by Sinclair is fake. Anything in between has a narrative they’re trying to achieve. If it ain’t journalism, it’s a dead opinion.

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64 points

Why would someone this meticulous keep the gun that’s could have been ditched? Write out a memefesto like two hours before being caught? Wear the same clothes that could’ve also been directed or burned? This feels like a patsy.

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Because, as many of us pointed out, he was never some super meticulous hitman. He exhibited basic knowledge of firearms and got his stalker on like the ceo what got got was a pretty girl who asked to borrow a pencil that one time in biology class. The rest was taking a bus and wearing a face mask most of the time. It was inevitable that he would be caught unless he fled the country.

Mostly this just highlighted how incompetent cops are. And… might be used to further efforts to just use computer vision and rudimentary “AI” to process security camera footage in the future.

As for why he would keep his gun on him? The manifesto kind of says it all (and, to my knowledge, Luigi has not disputed THAT aspect of it). He wanted to get caught. Probably after making it clear he could have escaped if he wanted to (because getting on a flight out of the US would have been trivial).


To be clear. If he were to have disputed the gun and manifesto I would VERY rapidly be on the side of "cops are planting shit yet again’. But the fact that he hasn’t (to my knowledge) while disputing other potentially planted or misinterpreted evidence puts the kibosh on that.

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15 points

If he wanted to get caught, why would he say the evidence was planted?

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14 points

If he wanted to be caught he could’ve turned himself in though, make it big and public if he wanted that attention.

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9 points

Fall guy, planted by the mob to give the NYPD credit that they aren’t just a bunch of guys with big bellies keystone copping around, probably they have a deal with a mob boss to not bust their child exploitation ring if they have them some dude who can sit in prison

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5 points

Everyone keeps calling him meticulous and I’m just curious what you found meticulous about it.

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21 points

His getaway sure was and dropping a bag off that had monopoly money seems more well thought out than “have gun and no change clothes”

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8 points

The way he fired off those shots was practiced.

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Maybe had more targets that he plans to “depose”? Maybe

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37 points

You know the funny thing about these “ghost guns” is they are untraceable so you don’t know where they came from. The best way to pin them to someone is to “pin” them to that person. This can be through forensics or proximity. In this case the suspect just happens to have a gun whose origins are unknown. Very convenient.

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13 points

💯

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But… a lot of his social media history (which is not impossible to fake but…) kind of suggests he was very mentally unwell.

What are you referring to here? I’m not scouring the internet for all the information I can find but everything I’ve seen so far paints the picture of a perfectly sane person who was fed up with a broken system. I see similar sentiments all over the internet literally every day.

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11 points

Well he also played this game where you act as an assassin called Among Us…

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10 points

Is there a decent thread on the facts somewhere? I am still trying to wrap my head around how they connected the subject of the shooting video to the subject of the crime stoppers picture. There are so many diffs it’s like a Mad Magazine bit.

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7 points

Welcome to the US justice system, where the rules are made up and the facts don’t matter.

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3 points

Wait, people actually do that on accident? They aren’t just making sure their boss can’t call them?

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