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10 points

1 month ago

We gave Democrats a majority. We gave them the opportunity. They didn’t do what we elected them to do.

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-5 points

1 month ago

Joe Manchin is barely a democrat - though he’s probably the best you’d get out of West Virginia. In other parts of the world, he’d be a different party and he’s already left the Democratic party

Look, Biden could have just gone home, blamed Manchin, called it a day on so many issues but he didn’t. He actually tried to do what he could via executive action in many areas. He got zero credit for quite significant legislation and executive action

He managed to get one of the largest US climate bill through (Inflation Reduction Act), large infrastructure investments, etc.

Biden has many many faults. You don’t need to claim there’s ones in the areas where he did really try and got only shit on for it

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9 points

1 month ago

Joe Manchin is barely a democrat

Joe Manchin’s obstruction is the last word people got from the Democratic Party on a host of issues.

Look, Biden could have just gone home, blamed Manchin, called it a day on so many issues but he didn’t.

Like he did with most of BBB, yes.

He got zero credit for quite significant legislation and executive action

That’s what happens when you spend decades being on the wrong side of issues, as Biden was with both cannabis and student loans. You don’t get credit for slapping a tiny store-brand bandaid over the problems you made a career out of creating and exacerbating. Especially when the tiny store-brand bandaid falls off.

He managed to get one of the largest US climate bill through (Inflation Reduction Act)

Centrists really overestimate the popularity of that law. Sometimes they wait a whole other sentence before gloating about record oil production.

Biden has many many faults. You don’t need to claim there’s ones in the areas where he did really try and got only shit on for it

His other faults make me disinclined to carry water for him.

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-6 points

1 month ago

You mistake me for a centrist, and that I am not. You mistake me as a fan of Biden, and that too I am not

Yes, we definitely need so much more. We’re not going to get it if we shit on any and every single piece of good news. We’re just going to end up with people too burnt out to do anything. Take the small wins and use them as motivate to build for much larger change we need

A lot of activists put work to make those changes. I am defending the activists and people who put the work in and got wins that no one acknowledges

In history, it’s almost always been the people like that who get change through even with imperfect and flawed people. Lincoln didn’t decide to free enslaved people on his own. He only opposed its expansion and even at that he was quite weak on it. He was willing to give much of that up to stop the civil war at first. But he was closer to the goal of abolitionists and they worked hard to get him to change his tune. Fredrick Douglas is often the classic example of that. He was pissed by Lincoln, called him the “white man’s president” and kept speaking with him in the hopes that he’d actually do what he said he would do and go beyond it

They eventually started to get concessions even if for frustrating reasons. They needed more union soliders and so they convinced to make a mostly symbolic gesture of the emancipation proclamation. It only freed enslaved people when the union regained land. It didn’t free any of the enslaved people behind union lines

But it got the ball rolling, now the union was in a more of a moral fight rather than just trying to keep the union together. Even though the win was small and nowhere need what needed it started shifting how the Union had to appear to itself and to other countries. It eventually ended up leading to the 13th, 14th, and 15th ammendments

It’s easy to find fault in anything. It’s much harder to build that change. I encourage you to find some route to change that’s productive and build something with it

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4 points

1 month ago

A lot of activists put work to make those changes. I am defending the activists and people who put the work in and got wins that no one acknowledges

No, you’re defending Biden.

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-6 points

1 month ago

Because we didn’t elect enough of them. You’re really leaning on “we have a majority because West Virginia”?

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9 points

1 month ago

Because we didn’t elect enough of them.

There are never enough. They killed the public option last time we gave them a supermajority.

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