Comment by Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com on Anon visits America

I’m currently vacationing in Japan and have slimmed down a lot in just a week of walking, eating smaller healthier meals, and taking the train everywhere. America has a truly fucked standard of living. I don’t want to go back to driving and eating shitty oversized unhealthy meals while also tipping.

you’ve “slimmed down a lot” in a week? did you also give birth this week? or is this a bias?

It’s not a bias it’s a fact. My shirts are way more loose on me and I’ve been walking an average of 15,000 steps a day. What’s it to you anyway? Are you upset someone’s making a valid criticism about American transportation and eating habits?

Because it’s a week lol you’re talking about losing water from sweating, stored sugars in muscles from exercising, and a teensy bit of fat loss. you haven’t “lost a lot” you’re just on vacation

what’s it to me? I like to tell people when they’re wrong in the internet. you said something stupid. hello.

lifestyle change and public transit are great but you’re just on vacation. and this is coming from someone who lived over a decade in the Americas and Asia both.

Your diet does make a real difference, more than you credit for in your reply. In university I had pizza almost every day for a month, I gained 15 lbs (7 kg) and had a way flabbier stomach. I stopped doing that and tried to eat healthier, incorporating salad with my meals, and in just about a week I started noticing it going away, and I was back to where I was before in 3 months.

It wouldn’t surprise me too much to see how a body would react noticeably to a drastic change from a sedentary, highly processed carbohydrate diet and lifestyle to an active, more balanced one. Everyone’s body is different of course so it won’t always be the case, but to me the OP’s claims seem far from impossible. Japan still has its share of oily foodstuff, but the average portion is tiny compared to the US.

Cool, all of that within a week?

There is no chance there is a visible change from a week of eating salads, no matter how fast your metabolism is.

People will argue about anything on the internet, just like lying.

If you look at yourself regularly and pay attention you can see your body change pretty rapidly. I’ve specifically watched my body bulking up on its own before burning those stored calories to build muscle and there’s a clear cycle of noticing a bit more pudge a few days before I suddenly make a big jump in cycling distance or how much I can lift (and the pudge also goes away at the same time)

I can lose 10lbs in 3 days if i quit drinking beer. 10 lbs is definitely noticeable. It’s definitely not a real change, just not being super bloated, but noticeable.

I’m not saying it’s impossible, I’m saying their experiences on a one week vacation are irrelevant to the broader lifestyle differences between cultures. its like no one in here has taken a statistics course. it was just dumb to bring it up at all

Because it’s a week lol you’re talking about losing water from sweating, stored sugars in muscles from exercising, and a teensy bit of fat loss.

Yes, and that is visibly noticeable on many people.

When I switch from bulk to cut the cut starts to take effect like almost immediately, and I slim down significantly within a few days. I know it’s mostly glycogen and water, but it physically looks very different after the water wooshes out of your body and your muscles become more visible.

(Also, it’s not exactly sweat, it’s that higher glycogen levels are bound to water molecules, which get released and can actually be used by the body or discarded as excess as the body seeks an equilibrium.)

Yes, and that is visibly noticeable on many people.

it’s not about whether its noticeable. it’s about whether or not it’s attributable to lifestyle differences between cultures or if a person is just being extra active on vacation and wanted to talk about their vacation online

Somewhat unrelated but I 100% thought your uname said “TapewormTraveler” and thought “well this guy would know a thing or two about travel and weight loss” before my brain corrected it. I need coffee lol.

they could be in their in 20s

Would someone do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies??

I walk an average of 15k steps on a slow day. Before I got promoted out of the shipping dept I used to do 30k/day before I left work, then still had to run errands and do things, now it’s usually more like 10k-15k at work (and some bodyweight squats while I stand at my desk because why not) and go do things. All of this (and here’s the part that will shock you) was in America. You don’t have to be in Japan to walk, even if you don’t walk for work there’s always “exercising.”

Basically you’re saying “usually at home I’m sedentary as fuck but since here I’m a gawking tourist I’ve been doing a modicum of cardio, and it has affected me exactly as expected, but instead of give myself credit for the work I did and realizing I could take this lesson back home I’m going to turn it into some weird contest and continue to blame my environment.”

It is possible to eat healthy here too, though that is admittedly harder especially if you’re dead set on not cooking, yet there are healthy to go options if you know where to look still. Buy a used bike and eat healthy at home, you don’t have to have cool foreign shit to look at while you do it, there’s probably a nice park or trail nearby you can have cool local nature to look at too. Or travel a lot and use that as an excuse if you’re privileged enough, whatever, but make no mistake you don’t have to.

You can lose 5 pounds in a week if you’re under 50 and healthy. This would cause clothes to loosen up on you.

Depending on your starting state/condition, you could slim down a noticeable amount during a week, sure.

you could also just say random shit on the internet too, wonder which is more likely

look i think America is a torturous shit hole just like the rest of lemmy but the above point is just fucking stupid

Are you not-so-subtly insinuating that I’m saying “random bullshit” on the Internet?

I’ve personally had periods in my life, too, where I’ve transformed my body significantly/noticeably within a timeframe of one week. It can happen.

A thing isn’t necessarily “fucking stupid” just because you don’t believe it (due to lack of knowledge), or you haven’t seen it (yet) (due to lack of life experience).

Maybe don’t react so strongly and you might have a more open mind in the future, and allow it to expand. 👍❤️

It’s good to be skeptical but it’s kinda sad to see someone cry bullshit so easily. Just go be miserable somewhere else dude.

No, they’re right, it’s extremely unrealistic to lose much weight in fat in one week. Even if you ate literally nothing and hiked up mountains 12 hours a day, which is obviously impossible, it’d be maximum like 10 pounds. Walking a bit and eating normally? No more than 2, that’s already extremely rapid weight loss.

Water weight on the other hand you can easily lose more than 5 pounds in a day.

I never said I lost weight, but I have slimmed down. What I’ve lost in water or fat weight I’ve gained in leg muscles. I’ve already been trying to lose weight for months through occassional dieting, using a treadmill daily, and lifting free weights. I’ve definitely lost arm muscle mass but I can now easily climb up several flights of stairs navigating subway platforms. It’s possible to change body composition over a week and a half if you’ve been priming for months. It’s okay if no one else believes me, after all this is the internet and anyone can lie. I’m satisfied with my own results and that’s all I need.

It’s being a cry bully to point out that it’s physically unlikely they lost any appreciable amount of weight in a week? Or do they just have a basic understanding of how the human body works and not want to play along with an unrealistic masturbatory ‘America bad’ fairy tale?

I’m all for believing BS stories on the Internet, but don’t get your panties in a wad when people point out parts that are entirely unrealistic. And I say that as someone who actually lost a large amount of weight in a comparatively short time.

It took months and it was still fast enough that those around me were worried for my health. There’s no way they lost anything meaningful in a week, especially when losing a large amount of water weight upfront and hitting an initial plateau is a known thing in the weight loss community.

hey, im not one to shoot down allies in an online argument, but last thing i wanna do is look like i’m defending the USA. america DOES suck. its lifestyle is horrible and there are minimal opportunities for adequate exercise or proper nutrition compared to japan. the point i’m making is that someone’s one-week vacation not going to reveal meaningful conclusions about those lifestyle differences. really I’m just defending basic research/statistical competency by calling out a stupid irrelevant comment that was probably just intended to shout out someone’s vacation online than to contribute to any discussion on cultural differences between nations

I’m not “crying bullshit”. I do believe that you are slimmer than you were when you left, probably with a lot less water weight – but how do those changes reflect Japanese lifestyle? I’m saying that you cannot take your experience on a vacation where you make drastic short-term lifestyle changes and draw conclusions from them

We know American lifestyles are unhealthy, and your experiences on vacation have nothing to add or subtract from that. It’d be as if someone came in here and said “I ate a sandwich in Vienna and got diarrhea, the Austrian lifestyle is disgusting!” like cool story and im happy for you but it’s really irrelevant. (just like our argument XD)

at its core, we have to acknowledge that there are serious challenges posed to our own bodies by modern society. people DO live sedentary lifestyles in asia. people DO end up eating only garbage when they’re overworked and don’t have accessible healthy food choices. obesity rates ARE increasing in countries like japan and korea. people DO develop eating disorders in these countries. i watched a professional dancer in seoul plummet into binge eating disorder as a response to the very lifestyle changes that we could be propping up in this thread. it’s so complicated, and one person’s vacation week does not really speak to the tenuous relationship 21st century humans have with food. many of the same challenges we face in the USA are happening in asia too, and in increasing amounts

I spent a month there at 19 and had to buy a belt a week and a half in

Story checks out to me

Vacationing in Italy was the same - smaller, healthier meals, lots of walking - I felt great and didn’t have the shits once on a 2 week trip. It’s a daily thing at home.

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