Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don’t want to insult anyone here being a ‘bastard’. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they’re unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm

Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg

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Most cows on the planet are currently living in factory farms as cattle a few months away from being slaughtered.

veterinary care

Not in factory farms. Preventative antibiotics are not veterinary care.

protection from the elements

Limited protection. In summer extreme heat from being stuck inside without air conditioning.

space to graze

Not inside factory farms.

opportunities to socialize

Not inside factory farms.

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Not inside factory farms.

most dairies, even large scale dairies, have pasture. beef cattle are raised 12 to 14 months grazing before going to a feedlot. so where are all these life-long confined cattle?

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Limited protection. In summer extreme heat from being stuck inside without air conditioning.

so you see they do get protection from the elements

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Not inside factory farms.

it seems like you think cattle spend their entire lives in a cafo. they don’t.

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Not in factory farms. Preventative antibiotics are not veterinary care.

they are, and that’s not all the care they get

edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.

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What other care do they get?

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Most cows on the planet are currently living in factory farms

care to cite this?

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Good lord you argue in bad faith. One line replies of basically “no”, “doubt it”, “citation needed”.

Like, come on man. How insufferable.

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this isn’t evidence, it’s a rhetorical complaint about being asked for evidence.

edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.

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your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith

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US 2022:

Haven’t found any numbers for other countries.

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a full 1/4 of all cattle never spend more than 45 days in a cafo, but even those that do don’t necessarily have the conditions you are describing, nor do they live there their entire lives

edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.

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This is a community in the spirit of “Am I The Asshole” where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


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