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Blah blah blah “we built our own great firewall and painted it red white and blue, and even banned the use of vpns to get to foreign sites which even China doesn’t do. We’re totally the good guys BTW.”

Americans are so fucking stupid, oh my god.

@EDIT: So it turns out the RESTRICT Act, that I was thinking of, and which banned VPNs, was shot down. And the current and approved Tiktok ban law doesn’t do that. So. My b. This one is on me. I stand by “Americans are so fucking stupid oh my god”, though, because you’re still cheering for loss of net liberty.

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What do you suggest? Allow a foreign nation to destroy you from within?

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Actually fight against that rather than pretending too, Israel and Russia have destroyed the US from within far more than China… Maybe tackle the active objective threats rather than potential ones

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Russia is a menace to US’s peasantry, as they might drag the US to a(nother) proxy war.

Whereas China is a menace to the US’s aristocracy, in the sense that China is currently richer than the US of A, and despite thousands of articles about how “CHINA’S ECONOMY WILL COLLAPSE TOMORROW!” for the past 15 years, it has yet to happen.

Ergo, the US government won’t do shit about Russia, but will bend over backwards for anything related to China.

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3 points

The US is doing it just fine on our own.

Hell, an election here just voted in fascism like its the 1920s again.

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Actual regulations on data privacy and algorithmic manipulation. It’s not that complicated. The EU figured it out. Fuck me, my own country, Brazil, a third world hellhole, figured it out. We have very strict rules on data protection.

Ofc, this would never happen because 1. Big corpos own the US government and actual regulation on privacy would hurt THEM, and 2. The US Government actually WANTS algorithmic manipulation to happen, except they want THEIR algorithmic manipulation and not anyone else’s.

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They’re suspiciously selective about what foreign interference they’re ok with.

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banned the use of vpns to get to foreign sites which even China doesn’t do

What are you talking about? The GFC tries its absolute best to block VPNs and other circumvention methods.

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I guess they’re not banned, but they’re blocking them.

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when exactly did that happen

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as an American yeah, seeing this post is just depressing. like people are actively cheering a loss of internet freedom. the government doesn’t care about bytedance or else capcut would have to go too. they care about controlling information, tiktok has been essential in issues like Palestine, even if I don’t like the platform itself I can admit that.

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Also 100% clear that facebook, google, twitter… are all doing the same but for US intelligence

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I think the idea of the government banning entire websites (or really any information in general) is horrifying. The fact that so many people in America seem to be enthusiastic or at least indifferent to new forms of government censorship shows how far along we are to complete fascism. Information is meant to be free, regardless of whether you agree with it or not. The fact that’s we’re having these conversations is disgusting.

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“Freedom is when you let foreign governments spy on your citizens”

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even banned the use of vpns to get to foreign sites

Do you have a source for this?

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I did, but then I realised I’m wrong about the VPN thing.

I was thinking of the RESTRICT act from 2023, which did ban the usage of VPNs (and was the “Original” Tiktok ban law)

Apparently in the year and change I spent not really caring (look, this is an American problem, y’all slam your metaphorical penises in the car door at least three times a day. And I have my own country’s dick-slammings to care about. I only hear about it when it’s particularly egregious or when I see a meme like this that is cheering for the dick-slamming) the RESTRICT act got shot down, and another one was quickly drafted.

The one that was approved does not ban VPNs. So. That’s on me. My b.

Anyway, given y’all are under Trump’s thumb now, I give it eeeeh six months before RESTRICT 2: Censorship Boogaloo starts making the rounds.

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I’m not American though.

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Americans are so fucking stupid oh my god

Coming from someone who confidently believed a law that didn’t exist was in effect, these words are a bit flat.

Better words would be “people in general are so fucking stupid”, and you are not immune to that.

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