And when people say they are “anti-tankie”, they actually mean that they are anti doing anything about the awareness of systematic inequality that tankie indicates. By definition, someone who is against change/progress is a conservative, so when someone says they are anti-tankie, they are by definition expressing a conservative stance. That is, wanting to do something about systemic inequality is synonymous with having a progressive stance on systemic inequality.

Being a tankie, on the other hand, is not synonymous with being a comunist. Tankies are just one form of communist (militant).

Other way around: communists are just one form of tankies, the word is also used to refer to anarchists and some soc-dems.

So the arbiter of what is socialist is you? Not the revolutionaries who have actually worked on socialist projects

So America is AES? We lead the world in prision labor.

How you like communism and hate communism at the same time? Its not black and white thinking, its just basic reality

Been thinking about getting one so I can just regurgitate trite Redditisms and feel content contributing nothing to the minds of others.

‘Im not wrong its the billions of people living in communist countries that are wrong’

Yeah, you’re right. It’s also important to read Lenin’s works on imperialism to understand modern socialism. It’s important to study Mao as well.

Newton to understand modern day physics

I mean yeah, if you want to understand the devolopment of physics you are required to understand the foundations it was built on, this is basic study.

Its like telling someone they should read the bible if they want to be christian, or telling someone they should read the instruction manual if they want to actually know what the terms they are using mean.

Tankie usually refers to Marxism-Leninism

no it usually refers to whatever the fuck the person posting it seems to think it is, there is not a coherent label for it.

Orthodox Marxism, trotskyism, libertarian Marxism, bulshevism, etc.

Oh cool, which societies use those?

How would Trotskyism be any less “authoritarian” Than marxism leninism ? Also almost every claims on some level to be “orthodox marxist”, lenin most of all and MLs as well

Omg read theory dammit!

No, I’m suggesting that authoritarian is a meaningless term unless defined specifically and was asking what theories of power and authority they had for making the delineation they are.

The derogatory term authoritarian is always leveled at socialist or communist countries, and never capitalist ones even though capitalist countries restrict rights for the majority of their populations by the very nature of the inherent power structure in capitalism. Even though communist countries usually enjoy far more decentralised authority, better voting rights, and higher political involvement in the populace, they are labeled as “authoritarian,” the implication being that they need “freedom” aka capitalism

I think the delineation between authoritarian regimes and non-authoritarian governments is pretty clear

Why are you unable to explain it then?

I believe they are suggesting that, if “authoritarian” means anything, that every large state that has ever existed was “authoritarian,” though some diffuse the authority through things like enclosure of the commons combined with strict property laws or other, older methods like religious law.

To be fair killing nazis is pretty cool. We made some movies about it.

It is neat you are a fan of doing things where the ends do not justify the means. How do bathing moral decay like that feel?

What atrocities in particular do tankies accept

I have entire history books about how the west lies.

There is not a similar body of data about the loss of the east. Is it perfect? No. Do we have any reason to belive they are as bad or bad in the same kind of way as the people who oppose them? No.

You say you’re anti west but every time the west says something about a bad guy you believe them

Yeah, much like how everything liberals call “tankie” is actually good.