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Donald Trump signed an executive order expanding presidential control over independent agencies, including the FTC, FCC, and SEC.

The order enforces the “unitary executive theory,” which argues the president has sole authority over the executive branch. It grants Trump’s budget chief, Russell Vought, oversight of these agencies’ performance and budgets.

The move is expected to face legal challenges, as past presidents have largely respected agency independence.

Trump defended the order, stating, “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.”

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111 points

I see this sentiment a lot. “Why aren’t Americans doing anything? Why aren’t leftist militias rising up to take back the capital? Etc. Etc. Etc.”

First of all, asking “why aren’t Americans doing anything” is a highly unaware question. We are doing things, but they aren’t going to give any airtime to the protests, marches, boycotts, and legal efforts taking place, because the media is now firmly on the side of those with power, not the common people.

Second of all, it’s pretty heartless of you to just casually ask us to “exercise the second amendment”, because when you ask that, you’re asking for at least some of us to die. Put yourselves in our shoes, and be honest - if you were in our position, would it be so easy and casual to just pick up a gun and join a violent revolution? Would you be willing to risk death in that situation? Personally, I’m not a soldier, I’ve never had an interest in guns, I’d be less than useless in that capacity. So I’m looking at other things we can do before escalating to that.

I get that everyone’s scared because the nation with the most powerful military on earth is falling into fascism. That’s terrifying to most Americans as well, and I think a lot of us are still frozen with that fear. I understand and agree that this problem is on Americans to fix. But I hope the rest of the world will be willing to help when we call on them, instead of just sitting idly by wondering when that magical second amendment is gonna kick in.

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Yeah the people making 2A arguments are seemingly asking people to murder people on their behalf with zero regards to how that plays out. Not surprisingly most gun owners are in fact not looking to murder people.

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Also, even if they were, who do they have access to murder? It’s almost begging people to take their frustrations out on their neighbors, which will only make things so much worse.

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Exactly, the people in the Trump sphere Im closest to is I knew some people whose fathers knew Trump. They are/were nice and decent people. I would he really sad if anyone hurt them and would have a hard time seeing how it would improve anything.

We should be amassed outside the homes of our legislators and judges demanding they stop this.

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Probably because they expect your military to start murdering them with zero regards to how it plays out within the next 4 years.

This is essentially what happened within Nazi Germany before World War 2

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I think the second amendment is pointed out so readily, because most of the world has watched America and their guns and ridiculous gun problems, and that is usually what is pointed at in some kind of gotcha defence. Second, we do see the protests and legal efforts, and honestly looking in, seems like that’s pissing into the wind.

As for myself committing violence in an situation similar to America’s? Can’t honestly answer one way or the other until I am in the situation myself, but don’t think it would be a hard no, I’m not opposed to violence in the correct situation, and boy you guys are, if not there already, very very close to that correct situation.

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The answer is no, most of these people calling for violence are cowards themselves.

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Not cowards just have sense, better someone else dows the violence rather than your own life get ruined the end goal is you having a better life if you do the violence your own life gets worse objectively.

We all want luigis, but none of us are desperate enough to be luigis, because we obviously dont want our own lives to goto shit? There is no happy ending for them

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You can try to justify it any way you want. If you call for someone else to commit violence in your stead, you are a coward.

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There’s also the fact that people with consumer grade weapons aren’t going to be doing shit against the military, which is what would be brought out against them. If I knew there was even a good chance that I could do something leading to my death that would do a damn bit of good, I’d do it. But there isn’t.

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That’s the whole argument after every school shooting.

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Uhh, what? The argument is to arm ourselves after a school shooting?

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Let me know when clever chants and signs held by a few hundred people bring about change

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11 points

It has before. Women didn’t get the right to vote from a massive war. Martin Luther King wasn’t an army general. You’re being just as dismissive and ignorant as the other guy.

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MLK would get nothing done without Malcolm X. Imagine thinking the civil rights movement was a peaceful protest! That’s wild you would try to retcon the history of that fight.

Women’s suffrage groups used the slogan “Deeds not words.” They committed arson and bombings.

I’d argue you’re being naive. Every American movement has to have violence attached to it. That is sadly how everything gets done in this shithole.

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You’ve either fallen for the propaganda, or you’re purposely being dismissive of the efforts currently taking place. Either way, your participation in this discussion is not helpful.

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