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Ontario will impose a 25% surcharge on electricity exports to New York, Michigan, and Minnesota starting Monday in retaliation for Trump’s tariffs on Canadian goods.

Premier Doug Ford warned U.S. governors and vowed to maintain the surcharge until all tariffs are lifted.

Canada has already imposed $30 billion in retaliatory tariffs, with more planned.

Ford also threatened to cut power to the states by April and banned U.S. firms from bidding on Ontario contracts. A $100M SpaceX deal for rural internet was also scrapped in response.

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144 points

Just do it please

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89 points

As an American- Agree. The dumbfucks in this country aren’t going to understand they fucked up, until the pain kicks in.

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Except 2/3 of those states voted blue.

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It sucks, but that’s where we are at. It’s not like the majority of the Dems are doing anything to actually fight back against this. If blue states get hit too, it might actually get them moving.

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Plenty of red outside the cities, though, and if they figure out why they’re suddenly paying more for electricity, it may change a few minds about Republicans.

Of course, they’re more likely to just blame Democrats for it, but one can hope.

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Because of cities. NYC and Minneapolis-St. Paul carried their states. The northern parts of both are fairly red. They’re the ones that will feel the biggest pinch

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1 point

How many of those people have rifles?

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It will likely take awhile for this to have any effect. I know at least in my state (ME) the utility needs to give a 30 day notice of rate hike and then that needs to then go to committee within public utility commission, who will basically arbitrate the request for increase.

Consequently, my supplier of electricity is a wholly owned Canadian company…so they’d actually be paying the increase until a rate hike was approved. Also, would a punitive rate hike even be approved?

They have enough trouble getting a 1% rate hike though for building infrastructure.

Edit: Although I’m not up to speed on if the affected states have set rates or variable rates.

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On the other hand there are logging trucks piling up at the border on the golden road right now!

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47 points

Any foreigner should avoid visiting US or buying US products to put pressure too.

It is crazy to advocate for it, as I live in US, but this administration needs pressure from everywhere.

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Pretty sure american products don’t have much of a presence outside of the USA because they’re actually low-quality and expensive.

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Is that so? In my experience (obviously it depends on the company) American made is, like, one of the gold standards? I’ve never had issue with American made things 🤷‍♀️

Again, I’m sure it depends on the product, and I may just have bias because I meticulously research just about everything before I buy, so I may just be buying the really good US made stuff, and most other things are crap, idk. Just like Germany and Japan have things that they really excel in; Australia too, etc.

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Yeah, I’m discouraged to even buy American because Trump and the Republicans have basically turned that into a nationalist policy. I used to love buying American and local, but it feels gross to think that I’m supporting their agenda.

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Brit here, I make sure to try and pay more attention and avoid American products now. Not that I bought many before, cola is probably the main one when at a pub/restaurant. Now if there is nothing else I want I just get water. So probably a healthier switch.

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why is it crazy? what benefit do you see from ‘prosperity’? how much of each of those tourist dollars goes to you? if you don’t have any investment in the system thriving, what reason do you have to not bleed it every chance you get? what of their policies actually provides benefit to you, and how much effort do they demand for what they offer? ask this of your employers, your governments, and every aspect of your society, if you want a world that works for you.

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