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Capitalism rewards greed, thus perpetuating it and entrenching it. So capitalism is the root of our greed epidemic

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It doesn’t reward greed, it rewards putting your resources into profitable endeavors. This is something you need to do in 100% communism as well, if you wish success.

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No it doesn’t, the workers who put their labour into profitable companies aren’t rewarded for it

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the reward is wages and if the workers unionize they can increase them

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You have it backwards. Greed is the root of our capitalism epidemic. And you think communist leaders are immune to greed? Just look at NK. The people share what little scraps there are while government officials live very easy lives

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Greed is not an intrinsic human characteristic, as I already explained, and further life under brutal sanctions and embargo is difficult for everyone. The DPRK manages to scrape by with what they can, and which is why lifting the embargo and sanctions is the best thing we can do for the Northern Korean people.

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the best thing we can do for the Northern Korean people

I think the best thing for the people of North Korea is to not force them to live under a brutal dictator.

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I can’t look at NK because the world capitalist economy isolated them, so I’m not going to argue about their material conditions. I don’t think anyone is immune to greed, but I think having a system that rewards greed is going to turn it from an aberration to an epidemic.

To your first point, let’s pretend you’re right and look at it in the abstract. What is to be done? Do you want to kill greed? How would you do that?

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To your first point, let’s pretend you’re right and look at it in the abstract. What is to be done? Do you want to kill greed? How would you do that?

You’re getting somewhere! First, don’t point your finger at capitalism as the problem. Second, acknowledge & understand greed and how it is inherent in all human nature. Third, build systems that minimize the damage done by individual or corporate greed. Check against consolidation, monopolization, and short term Wall St like thinking of endless growth. Four, make sure socialist programs exist to support everyone, and capitalism is not the only way to live, it’s optional. When you think like that, the European nations seem to be doing things quite alright, but they are still vulnerable to greed. And so they must be vigilant against greed, not capitalism.

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I can’t look at NK because the world capitalist economy isolated them

It’s a hereditary dictatorship that isolates itself to control all information its public can access.

Simping for alternative authoritarian regimes is NOT an effective way of fighting the tyranny of Capital.

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communist leaders

Found the problem

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I don’t follow, Communism in the Marxian sense has administration and thus leadership. Are you suggesting a different structure?

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Every type rewards greed because humans and their predecessors have been trained to be greedy for all of time. Be it corruption or by design…it will always be.

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Not our recent predecessors, they had communal social structures.

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They did war with each other which included plundering, rape, and slavery. All humans are dicks

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