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195 points

People who think being a jackass is a form of activism. That’s all you really need to know.

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91 points

Uh hello, it’s called jacktivism.

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27 points

Oh right! I thought that was… uhhh … something else

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17 points

you’re thinking of jackitvision

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5 points

I like where this is going

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I have seen so many thread saying how bad that instance is but every time I ask for links proving how bad they are I have never see anything worth the hate.

Can you provide some examples?

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I have never see anything worth the hate.

You just have a very high tolerance for jackassery. You’ve seen plenty of evidence of hexbear hostility, i.e. the “dunk tank” that would justify not wanting to interact with hexbear users and have actively chosen to disregard it.

This is because you’re kind of a jackass. Disregarding people engaging in good faith with “just trust me bro” is exactly the kind of thing people really hate hexbear users for. Not because of illegal activity or moral failing, but because they’re assholes. While you may think this isn’t worth de-federation, unfortunately moderators aren’t some kind of legal authority, and if federating with hexbear means instance admins or community moderators need to put in triple the work to prune all the arguments and “”“shitposting”“” hexbear users love, nobody is legally or morally required to put up with it.

It’s legitimately that simple. Hexbear users are jerks and nobody wants to hang out with them, and that’s enough to ban them from any given community or instance.

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Best point I’ve read made here.

I’m also probably kind if a jackass, because hex bear doesn’t bother me. Would I appreciate a civil conversation to better understand their POV? Totally. Will that happen? No. So I just don’t interact. The fierce protection of LGBTQ communities is something I appreciate however.

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They’re tankies. End of story.

This is not a good argument, which is going to elicit the response he had no matter the context.

People don’t put the effort into showing receipts. And sometimes the receipts are about murders that happened over 100 years ago? This post about the tzars https://kbin.social/m/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works/t/424265/Hexbearians-frustrated-that-user-draws-the-line-at-child-murder

This whole thread is about the historical context around the summary execution of the romanovs. While the tzars absolutely needed to end, in the context of the 1910s and absolute monarchy, if the children didn’t die there would have likely been civil war trying to reinstate the line into power.

THIS https://kbin.social/m/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works/t/419779/This-Comm-is-Racist-Thought-Terminating-Nonsense

Is a much better receipt. User doesn’t understand the winnie the pooh reference, also doesn’t understand the PRCs effort to stifle discussion about TSM and the pressure that firsthand witnesses are under.

even with this guy, I don’t understand how a user being an idiot is worth defederating. If he’s going into other threads and spouting the same nonsense, sure ban him. If many people are going into other unrelated threads and injecting that kind of misinformation into conversation, that’s a pattern that makes defederating a consideration.

Is there this pattern, of other communities being disrupted in this way?

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69 points

Lol, that’s because the mods of said threads already had to delete all the bullshit they posted once they “accidentally found this on all” and then descent on it like locusts (but they’re totally not brigading!!!1!)

Here’s one of their mods:

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-1 points

and guess what

Kill yourself, bigots. I will not be civil to those who view me as lesser. I view you as lowly as you do me.

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SJW is shit just works in this context. Also yeah, do you expect her to be civil to bigots?

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48 points

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/1854795

How about flooding a meta thread that’s not on their own instance to insult people who disagree with them?

Part of the drama with that incident included hexbear folks straight up saying “I thought the whole point of federating with other instances was so that we could dunk on liberals”. Majority of folks on hexbear did not see any issues with the behavior of their members on this post.

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Oh wow, there’s more hexbear comments than blahaj comments. Almost every blahaj comment has like 3-4 responses. I read a comment of someone saying that the thread looks wildly different if you see it from an instance that defederated them, and it’s so sad that it is completely different.

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If you’d like examples I know some of their bad takes are starting to be posted to !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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I have been there and not seen anything worth banning an instance.

Can you give a direct link to somersaulting you think should result in de-federation?

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I haven’t really had any issues with them. That said, literally the thread above this one in all top hour has a bunch of people hoping Biden gets COVID and dies…so there is that.

https://hexbear.net/post/515198

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Meh. I have seen the same said about Musk, Trump and others.

While I don’t agree with that being said about anyone, I think it is still up to a person to decide if they want to block hexbear.

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2 points

You want to form your own opinion, so go check it out.

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-3 points

I don’t know personally, but a commenter above wrote:

I appreciate that they help stomp out fascist, racist, and anti-trans rhetoric on Lemmy.

So if there’s any truth in that, the backlash could be a bunch of whiney butthurt Nazis.

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4 points

I went to a link below and honestly, as another commenter succinctly summarized as “whiny butthurt Nazis” was a giant “freedom” murica style. Seriously, my eyes hurt, I left.

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-13 points

Again: can I please have a link to show why they are bad.

Otherwise it is just: Trust me Bro

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I’ve been asking for links to examples, in posts about online trends, for about a decade now and nobody has ever even once risen to the challenge.

At this point any claim of the form “The internet has X happening on it” I just immediately dismiss until I see evidence. Which I never do.

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28 points

I’m sure a lot of people just think your a sea lion.

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16 points

It’s not the rest of the internet’s responsibility to do your research for you.

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1 point

Never? With variable “X” never?

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