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The jail sentence has nothing to do with this happening.

This will keep happening while people are forced to bear kids they don’t want in financial situations, where nothing can be afforded and everything is shit.

The mother was torturing her child because she needed to vent and her kid seemed like the root of all her problems, not because there were only 30 days of jail sentence.

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15 points

And with poor access to mental health support.

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Every time there’s a mass shooting, Republicans say, “guns aren’t the problem, mental health is” and then they want to do absolutely nothing about it.

The only conclusion you can make is that they like mentally ill people who torture and murder.

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Exactly. Then they’ll take that and turn it into fear. Then they’ll take that fear and blame the Democrats for it. Then their base with their room temperature IQ will eat that shit up and show up on voting day and vote for hatred and projection while being completely oblivious to the fact it’s their party’s fault nothing is being done about it.

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…they like mentally ill people who torture and murder.

Well I mean every political party tries to develop their base

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I think that’s only been a recent thing they’ve mentioned; mostly they seem to come out with the ‘moar guns’ line, or the good guys with guns statement, but that’s coming from an outsider so it may well be different from your actual experience.

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4 points

She said she actually did it to spite the father…

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Yes, I wrote this somewhere else, but my point still stands. The kid seemed as the root of all her problems and the jail sentence did never occur to her.

This is not an excuse (as some people said) it is still a horrible thing to do. I just want to make people aware, that these thing point to systemic problems and not necessarily evil people.

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Do you have evidence this woman was forced to bear this child? I didn’t read that in the article. And since you provided your opinion of why the mother did this to the child, I know for a fact you didn’t read the article.

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Do you have evidence this woman was forced to bear this child?

I do not, but I also rather meant my text as generalization for parents harming their children this much.

Okay, let’s look into the article to see if a jail sentence would help.

Authorities said while the officer was taking McDonald to jail, she said that her actions were done as a test to see if the child’s father “gave a f–k at all,” adding she waterboarded her baby to try and make Neal come back to the apartment.

She allegedly admitted her actions were done “out of spite.”

I would argue, this crime has nothing to do with the sentence and everything to do with the circumstances I and others have mentioned.

And maybe she didn’t want to abort, but also maybe she would have chosen to, if it were more accepted and education in that matter was better.

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It’s accepted in Oregon

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A lot of maybes and speculation. Sure, education is never a bad thing, but you’re trying to use this horrible situation to push your beliefs. This woman hurt her own child to spite the child’s father.

I made no mention of the jail sentence. You made a claim that was false. I responded to it with facts from the article. You responded with some “maybes” and speculation.

I think it’s pretty messed up to use this situation to push your opinion how having access to abortion (being “forced” to bear this child) might have prevented this. There’s a time and a place for such an argument.

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Oh, I didn’t realize that poor financial situations excuse people from waterboarding babies

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Did I write that somewhere? No.

Did I mean it? No.

Okay, but do you think, that maybe her life was so shitty, that she didn’t even care for her kid and that this is maybe even a systemic problem and she has no way of solving that herself?

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Holy shit please tell me you don’t have kids.

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5 points

I have kids and wouldn’t harm them even if there was no jail sentence and I would gain money from it. What is your point?

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“She was torturing them because she needed to vent.” Sounds an awful lot like justifying her actions.

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