Do you think the region of Palestine and Arabs/Jews were created in 1948?
The region of Israel was created in 1948 by stealing Palestinian land to give to white European Jews. It’s not a religious conflict, it’s European colonialism
Became a religious conflict after PLO collapsed and was replaced by Iran-alligned goons. They match the orthodox Jews who claim that a good Muslim is a dead Muslim.
This isn’t a conflict that was going on in the Ottoman period. This is a recent conflict and this attempt to turn it into a thousands year old religious war is bullshit. This is a colonial project where the goal is to take land. Very material in nature. That project has been in place since 1948.
Are you arguing that Jews have no right to be in Jerusalem and the surrounding areas? I am pro for a two state solution. But that means that one is Israel and the other one in Palestine.
The region that is now Israel might have been Palestine before 1948, but only because Arabic inhabitants of the area kicked Jews out, which started the Diaspora, which ultimately lead to the holocaust.
Both Partys have the right to be in that area, which means that only a two state solution can bring peace in the longterm.
Quite the opposite. I feel the same as you, both sides should be allowed to stay. What’s done is done and ethnically cleansing the area is obviously a horrific crime that oughtn’t be advocated for in either direction. Where we differ is that I see the two state solution as setting the region up for the same conflict down the road. After decades of settlement the areas which would make up the Palestinian state would be non-contiguous swiss cheese. It would be an untenable situation.
Instead, a singular, secular, egalitarian state with universal suffrage and human rights guaranteed for all would be a challenging path, but I think ultimately a more stable one. And a path which would leave room for healing in the future.
Debatable. The people who think it’s a millennia-long feud are counting from when the Romans threw the Israelites out of Israel according to the Bible. For them, protecting Israel at all costs is a religious thing, and their religion has existed for millennia, so 💁
Islam hadn’t even come about at that time, however, so people casting it as a religious war between Jews and Muslims come across as especially disingenuous if they try to frame it that way. Hell, the Romans hadn’t even Christianized at that time. Is it a war between Judaism and Paganism? C’mon.
