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kofe@lemmy.ml

14 points

1 year ago

Lol damn, God forbid someone want more out of life than scraping by getting basic needs barely met. I’ve been looking around while in school, and plenty of jobs are still paying $15-19/hr. That is barely enough to get by, depending where you live and rent may not even be enough, let alone take a vacation once a year or even think of raising a family.

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atetulo@lemm.ee

-15 points

1 year ago

What do you mean? He used the word ‘need’ and now you’re changing it to ‘wants.’

Why are you conflating needs with wants?

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kofe@lemmy.ml

3 points

1 year ago

It’s both. Humans need breaks, vacations, etc. I may want to take a vacation to South America but would settle for somewhere North, though.

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atetulo@lemm.ee

-4 points

1 year ago

Humans need breaks, vacations, etc.

Woah woah woah. Breaks and vacations are very different things.

It’s funny watching you people conflate needs and wants just like breaks and vacations, lol.

You really need to brush up on your vocabulary!

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TheBeege@lemmy.world

2 points

1 year ago

You’re arguing semantics while the intention is clear. Quit being pedantic.

In our parents’ generation’s time, a public service job could fund a house, two kids, and annual vacations. We want that, or even more since we’re significantly more productive since those days. A job used to give us needs and a good amount of wants. Conflating the two in this context, while not perfectly precise, is irrelevant.

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atetulo@lemm.ee

-2 points

1 year ago

Needs and wants are different things and should be described as such.

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TheBeege@lemmy.world

0 points

1 year ago

If I’m talking about liking red cars then point to a car, and you say, “that’s not red, that’s mauve,” you’re being an ass.

If we’re shopping for paint together, and i say “i like this red,” and you reply, “i think that’s mauve,” you’re trying to be specific in our communication about a common task.

Right now, we’re talking about cars. Chill out

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2 points

1 year ago

Please do explain the difference, then, between why breaks are necessary but vacations shouldn’t be? You do realize study after study shows that 24-30 hour work weeks provide the most productivity? That family leave, healthcare, paid time off etc is associated with the happiest citizens? Is increased well-being not necessary in your worldview?

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atetulo@lemm.ee

-2 points

1 year ago

between why breaks are necessary but vacations shouldn’t be?

One is literally necessary for survival while the other isn’t. This is the difference between a ‘need’ and a ‘want.’

Is increased well-being not necessary in your worldview?

Considering how many people are able to live a significantly lower quality of life than what you’re advocating for, no. It’s not a ‘need.’ It’s a ‘want.’ There’s no limit to ‘increased well being.’ There is a limit to what the human body can take before it can no longer go on living.

Might want to brush up on your vocabulary. This is a pretty simple concept that even 2nd graders have no problem understanding.

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kofe@lemmy.ml

0 points

1 year ago

Yeah, second graders get longer vacations than I do, interesting ain’t it. Maybe you need one cuz your brain seems to be working overtime to justify people suffering.

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