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Oh boy, the identity and copyright laws will be chaotic as ai gets more and more advanced. I’m all in for abolishing copyrights but I have no idea what to think about your identity being duplicated/recreated. When is something your identity and when it stops being it? It will be obvious with 1:1 copies of popular people/actors but what about situations where copies are tinkered with to resemble someone less or when you do a mix of multiple people to create one person? What about people that are not known by everyone? What if the virtual person resembles someone by accident?

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One of the easiest ways to make consistent characters using stable diffusion is to combine two celebrities with different weights. How do you deal with stuff like that under copyright. Hey this person is 3/4 Jennifer Lawrence and 1/4 Salina Gomez, but it’s not either of them it’s a new character.

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Also eventually we will (if not already) be able to generate brand new fake people anyway, so they won’t even need the extras. Obviously that won’t work for the actual main cast, but for background actors it makes sense. Crowds and far away people have already been done in CGI for over a decade now.

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Copyright doesn’t cover elements that are not the product of human labor, which means it does not cover physical bodies or faces or voices or anything like that.

What you’re describing falls under the classification of personality rights.

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I take a modicum of comfort in the fact that no one will want to watch “half this actor and half this one with a dash of this one thrown in” because that’s weird and not enticing. After the initial novelty, I imagine those films will struggle.

Hollywood spent a very fucking long time cashing in on celebrity and name recognition and the lives and loves of these beautiful people, building them up to tear them down…they won’t suddenly build a new and flourishing market of not real people but cheap store brand knockoffs of the ones they’ve convinced us we give a shit about. That just won’t work.

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ai denial spotted in the wild

Edit: Imagine having characters that are not played by a real person. Your movie won’t be ruined just because the actor is controversial. Just an example.

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I take a modicum of comfort in the fact that no one will want to watch “half this actor and half this one with a dash of this one thrown in” because that’s weird and not enticing. After the initial novelty, I imagine those films will struggle.

What are humans and their personalities other than just a mix of other people (genetics) and some random stuff thrown in? The ai generated humans and real humans are not different. It’s just that the ai generated humans wouldn’t exist physically in the real world. But that doesn’t matter though, movies are all about selling the illusion of the world they represent, you don’t need real stuff to represent fictional worlds. Take books for example, books don’t have actors and they sell pretty damn well, we still immerse ourselves into those worlds and see each character as a separate entity.

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That’s probably going to get instantiated by the law suits like Sarah Silverman vs OpenAI. Zero chance that will be the final word, but it will set the stage for the ongoing arguments and what the studio’s try to get away with. The basic argument that me and mine being ingested by your algorithm is a copy protected transaction makes sense on multiple levels, but would absolutely crush all of the internet. So it’s going to end up being a very ugly fight.

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What makes copyright bad but identity protection good? Copyright prohibits the unauthorized duplication of your actual labor. To my mind that’s more egregious than simply copying the shape of your face.

I’d be a lot less pissed off if someone copied my face than if they copied something that actually took me effort to produce.

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Wasn’t my point. It’s more about WHAT someone does with your “identity” in public media. In the long term I can see it being abolished too but in the short term there will be a lot of drama about it for sure.

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Wasn’t my point.

Yeah, it seems like it was my point in my original comment, my bad.

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