Ohio voters just took firm positions on abortion and reproductive rights and adult-use recreational marijuana Tuesday, but gerrymandered Ohio lawmakers are already planning to flout, ignore, challenge, and abuse the voters’ wishes. This is what gerrymandering brings. This is why it’s a fundamental poison in the lifeblood of our republic.

Mere hours after Ohio voters passed the Issue 1 reproductive rights amendment with 56.62%, according to unofficial results, and the Issue 2 recreational marijuana law with 57% (both getting nearly 2.2 million votes), Ohio Republican legislative leaders signaled they would not respect the will of the people.

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Your options are vote or give up and let them do whatever they want. You can be apathetic if you want but I’m not giving up.

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I’m not the one being apathetic. This whole disaster has been allowed to happen because people like you support people unconditionally and then they do whatever the fuck they want in office.

When the bar is “better than the alternative” and they keep moving down with it every time Republicans dig down further, you never get the representation you need and deserve.

Your “vote blue no matter who and never criticize OUR leadership” obedience is why the Dems became complacent enough to allow fascism to gain a foothold while themselves veering further right than Reagan.

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You’re putting a lot of words and opinions in my mouth and I’m just not going to touch on them because you, quite frankly, don’t know anything about me. But. If you think voting less will ever - ever make our society better than in my opinion you don’t have a clue.

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You misunderstand the suggestion. The time to drive Democratic Party policy is in the primary. Vote for the Lefties. Vote for the socialists. Vote for the anarcho-communists. Vote for the leftiest Lefty that ever leftied. Drive the party Left there, but in that General, you need to vote Blue. The alternative may well ensure you never vote again because they have a plan that involves the voting public being turned into serfs and slaves for their policies. The righties have known this for a goddamn fucking long time. They express it as “Vote for the Conservative in the Primary, and vote for the Republican in the General.” We need to steal that thinking and modify it to ‘vote for the Liberal in the primary and the Democrat in the General.’ There’s fucking more of us than there are of those shitheads, just like there were in Iran in the 1970s and in Germany in the 1930s. When you get on your fucking high horse and say ‘they aren’t liberal enough’, that’s how you get people like Hitler and the Ayatollah.

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The time to drive Democratic Party policy is in the primary

Good plan in theory, but the party itself is in charge of the primaries and the leadership plays favorites.

in that General, you need to vote Blue.

I agree. I’m not saying to not vote blue, I’m saying to make the blue ones earn your vote and raise hell when they don’t.

vote for the Liberal in the primary

No thanks. Neoliberalism is a center right to right wing ideology.

When you get on your fucking high horse and say ‘they aren’t liberal enough’, that’s how you get people like Hitler and the Ayatollah.

Holding your elected officials accountable for their actions is so far from a high horse that it’s a fucking pony.

that’s how you get people like Hitler and the Ayatollah.

No. The rise of the ayatollah was backlash to a US-sponsored coup and Hitler (and Mussolini, for that matter) was the liberals and conservatives in charge not doing enough to stop the rise of fascism, just like the neoliberal Dem leadership now.

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These are not the only options. If the representatives don’t respect results of democratic vote, organize and go to the streets, protest, don’t let them think you don’t care!

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Protesting without voting is just taking a loud walk. It’s easy for politicians to ignore you if you don’t ever show up at the polls. That would be like a bunch of people protesting outside a McDonald’s because the food is unhealthy and then eating at that McDonald’s for their lunch break. Definitely protest but back that protesting up with voting.

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It’s easy for politicians to ignore you if you don’t ever show up at the polls.

It’s much easier if you ONLY show the at the polls and only for them no matter what.

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Protesting without voting is just taking a loud walk.

My dawg WE DID VOTE. I VOTED. I VOTED FOR BOTH OF THE ISSUES IN THIS POST AND THE PARTY IN POWER IS STILL SAYING FUCK YOU.

Sorry for the all caps but like, c’mon guy, do you think people aren’t voting? We fucking voted! We did it! We did the thing people have always told us to do and the Republicans are still getting their way! Just voting isn’t cutting it anymore! Stop telling people just to vote, and stop belitting other valid forms that the voting populace can use to enact change!

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Yes, I never meant protesting without voting. In this case people DID vote. But their decision is being ignored. I don’t think the reasonable thing to do in such case is to wait peacefully for another election!

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