With apologies for voicing an opinion rather than linking an external article.

I am of the strong opinion that Remembrance Day had become at best grandstanding, and at worst, completely meaningless. There are phases tossed around like “Lest we Forget” or “Never Again”. But when Russia invaded Ukraine, we have effectively done the opposite (or very nearly).

Sure, we can send ammo so Ukranians can fight back, or host some of their forces for training. But the reality is, we are only marginally involved. We haven’t mobilized. We aren’t on war footing economically.

The root causes are many. But a combination of NATO’s article 5 protection only kicking in if we are attacked (rather than joining an already existing war), and the threat of nuclear retaliation, means we are paralyzed politically.

At a minimum: I would support direct involvement, whether that’s ramping up our own military, deploying specialists, reservists for minesweeping, stationing our own troops (meagre as they are) in Ukraine to directly support the fight. I would actually support much larger actions, including naval blockades or airspace closures but wholly understand that Canada cannot execute those on their own.

We cannot allow genocidal wars to be pressed in the modern world. And we should be doing everything we can about it. Right now, we’re doing barely more than nothing.

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That was called appeasement, and was tried. It helped lead to WW2.

There should always be a forum to talk. However, words must be backed by a big enough stick, and the resolve to use it. Otherwise those who respect the use of words will just be flattened by those who are happy to abuse the situation. Finding the balance of this is the biggest challenge we have as a species.

Assuming you are referring to Russia Vs Ukraine right now. Russia was using and abusing words, with no intent to match them with actions. If they truly wanted to come back to the table, they would be welcomed. The catch is, it would have to be backed with actions. Pull back to the original borders, and present the evidence they supposedly have of issues in Ukraine to the international community. Right now they appear to just be bullies, and are being treated as such.

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appeasement and WW2

It’s a bit of a stretch to compare the lead up to WW2 to modern day politics. Back then news and information took days and weeks to reach people and everyone had a hard time figuring what was going on and leaders on any side could simultaneously use that fact to bend and break the truth.

It’s a bit harder to hide true intentions of what any side is attempting to do in an age of instant communication.

For the record, I have no love for Russia and it’s authoritarian regime … nor do I appreciate America and its war machine.

Reverse the situation in Ukraine and Russia and place Russian military forces in Mexico to ‘contain’ America … what do you think the reaction would be?

Everyone loves this argument but no one ever likes to acknowledge the double standard.

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What exactly do you think the US is doing that’s the equivalent of Russia having troops in Mexico? Hell if I can figure it out.

You sure very much describing appeasement. Russian officials have repeatedly let slip their desire to go further into Europe. There is really no difference.

And I’m someone more sympathetic than most to Russia’s, “we had to do it,” argument.

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If America has no hand in Ukraine … how is Ukraine able to sustain its war with Russia?

It’s almost become common knowledge to everyone now at this point … Ukraine is a proxy war between the US and Russia.

A good way of understanding that is … if the US were today to just withdraw its funding and supplies in Ukraine, how would Ukraine fair? If you removed all the military spending in Ukraine over the past ten years, how do you think history would have played out?

In terms of Russian expansionism … how is it that they haven’t changed their borders over the past 20 years, especially when they are right next to a few weak nations on their southern border.

The only nation I’ve ever read about that has spread and expanded their military and political influence worldwide to either occupy, influence or outright control foreign nations is the United States.

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I mean, and Cuba is also a thing, although I guess the US did do something like Crimea 2014 back in the 60’s.

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Appeasement allowed the 3rd Reich to build the momentum it did. It was a nice idea, but failed when faced with actors who don’t act in good faith. Russian backed trolls online have be desperately pushing the “we should sit down and talk” card, without the accompanying “give back what Russia stole” part.

If America is launching an invasion of Mexico, without the concerted backing of the rest of the world, then it’s the right action to take. If someone breaks their fist on the shield you used to cover someone’s face, that’s on them. A policing action should be multinational, with clear, stated goals. Not 1 country imposing its views on its neighbour by force.

I’m also of the mindset that boots should be on the ground in Israel and Palestine, with orders to help de-escalate both sides. Unfortunately, that’s never going to happen in a useful way. It would have to be a coalition including significant Islamic elements to not immediately explode. The west has been stirring the pot FAR too much over the last 70 years for most Islamic countries to trust us now.

I fully agree, however, that the American military machine needs to be cooled WAY down. It’s become a beast set on devouring its host, along with everything else it can get its claws on. I’ve no idea how that could be achieved though.

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In an age of mass communication, instant connection, accumulated knowledge, historic experience and legions of academics and capable professionals and political leaders … there should be more options to deal with regional conflicts other than spending billions of dollars on the latest technologies designed to kill people.

If we aren’t capable of preventing or solving problems without war and death … then we (everyone on all sides) are no better than our ancestors thousands of years ago.

The answer shouldn’t be trying to figure out how to kill as many people as possible to settle differences.

I’ll repeat it again … if billions are spent on war, war is inevitable … if billions are spent on peace, peace can occur.

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