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Nah there’s plenty of resources to go around. Rampant consumerism is the problem.

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There’s not plenty of resources to go around.

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I think they’re trying to say there would be if it wasn’t for consumerism.

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Yes, but there wouldn’t.

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Infinite growth is inherently incompatible with life. It does not work. The biosphere is under immense pressure already. Humanity extinct 4 species every day and has killed off 90% of wild animals in the last 100 years. Nature is the greatest repository of knowledge that we have. It is invaluable to our science, though we treat it as expendable. It’s like burning all libraries. We are simply using too much land in an effort to support a shitty economical model that is based on population growth, forever. This is the kind of problem that humanity has proven to be ineffectual at solving. Long term and noone will take action unless it blows up in their faces, personally, right now. Let the next generation deal with it. That is what they said in the 50s and that is what they will say in 10 years too. The damage done to the biosphere is practically permanent. Once an animal or plant is extinct, it is gone. Once enough of them is gone, the planet no longer supports complex life.

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We don’t need to be using resources the way we do. It’s again a result of consumerism.

We could easily support a way bigger population if we used resources better.

If we stopped worrying about money so much science would easily be able to fix many of these problems.

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That’s lime saying lions don’t have to eat animals and chickens don’t have to eat shit.

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