That is so bizarre. Cooking and cleaning aren’t women’s responsibilities, they are adult responsibilities.
What separates things out is the degree of implementation.
A reasonable man will slap together a simple and hearty yet healthy meal with 2-3 separate items on a plate. A lot of women will jack that shit up to 11 and make it a 3-course meal.
A reasonable man will clean until things are clean to the needs of the situation. If it’s a plate, it’s until it is clean enough to safely eat off of. If it’s a barn floor, clearly those standards are a lot lower; be happy if you see a broom come out. A lot of women will insist on surgical-room cleanliness regardless of the location.
A man should never have any reluctance to cooking and cleaning. It’s called basic adulting. What we need to watch out for is to align our efforts to the needs and conditions of the situation. We men are here to be practical.
Folks, we are witnessing toxic masculinity live in this thread, look at the way this toxic male masterfully injects his internalized misogyny into a comment that sounds reasonable at first but quickly devolves into more gender stereotypes, portrayals of woman as unreasonable, impractical, and irrational. Look at how he tacitly emasculates any man who likes to cook for the joy of cooking or clean things beyond a bare minimum. What a rare opportunity to witness the toxic male engaging in such iconic behavior, while unaware of it’s surroundings.
You really should have stopped after the first paragraph it just devolved from there on.
You really should have stopped after the first paragraph it just devolved from there on.
Ah, yes. Because real-world experience is just so passé.
Sorry for intruding into your ideology with facts and reality.
Oh god that’s funny. What’s my ideology then? I wasn’t aware that basic human observation was ideology now.
I think the problem you have is the people you hang out with are awful if that’s your world view based on observed reality.
Perhaps you should join a support group or something.
We men are here to be practical.
So as the non-toxic arbiter of facts and reality, what exactly are women here for?
Don’t you think that this “men are here to be practical” theory has some gaps? Like there are plenty of men who do the things that you describe as unnecessary
- What if you just likes cooking or fancy meals?
- What if your cleanliness standards are just higher?
I’m not saying that barns should be sweeped or that everyone should cook fancy meals. But to say that people who do do that are (as you seem to be implying) overdoing it, or impractical is a bit unfair I think. I am also quite practical but still respect that others have higher standards or just “want things their way” which should be at least a little relatable to everyone.
