Comment by nixcamic@lemmy.world on New Rule: Everything I don't like is antisemitic

Regardless of semantics, and how Israel’s own actions are a very large part of the problem, you still gotta agree that Hamas is racist against Jews.

Indeed, in other words, just as the IDF is racist against Palestinians

I’d agree that both states are racist. It’s why I don’t really think people should support Hamas or Israel carte blanche and why you can make a case that a blank unqualified statement of “I support (Israel/Hamas)” does seem quite racist.

“Hamas vs Israel” is a category error. It’s Hamas vs Likud or Palestine vs Israel. Nobody should support Hamas or Likud. Nobody should even tolerate them. They’re both terrorist groups whose goal is genocide.

It’s not racism. They are the same race. It’s religious intolerance.

“Race” for humans is a made up concept and “racism” has been used to refer to any kind of hating a group for their ethnicity. “Ethnicity” is a very ambiguously defined concept notably including shared attributes like nationality, language, history, religion, etc.

I, too, am not a fan of words being used incorrectly, but this is not an incorrect use of “racism”.

but this is not an incorrect use of “racism”.

Israeli Citizenship is determined solely by religion. The only reason that a Palestinian can’t be an Israeli citizen is they haven’t converted to Judaism. That’s religious discrimination.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_citizenship_law#:~:text=Every Jew has the unrestricted,one parent is a citizen.

Otherwise you’d also have to classify the Protestant vs Catholic wars in Europe as racist too.

As I stated, it is not incorrect to use the term racism for religious discrimination, especially not when it involves a religion you can’t just join at will. What matters is moreso whether they see themselves as a seperate people from whoever they discriminate against.

religion you can’t just join at will.

But you can! It’s in the article I linked.

People are killing each other over land and historical grievances, not whether to call God Allah or Yahweh.

I agree that’s part of the culture but it comes down to religion. If you are of Jewish faith, you have automatic citizenship in Israel.

When Ethiopia had its famine in the early 90’s, the Ethiopian Jews, who were Black and culturally Ethiopian, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Solomon#/media/File%3AFlickr_-_Government_Press_Office_(GPO)_-_LINE_OF_ETHIOPIAN_IMMIGRANTS_STREAMING_OUT_OF_THE_HERCULES.jpg were evacuated to Israel simply because of their Jewish faith. Race had nothing to do with their becoming Israel citizens.

Biologically speaking, there is only one human race. So, does that make the word “racism” invalid? It’s a stupid term whose origin makes no sense, but I’d argue its meaning had transcended its original linguistic root. Same for anti-“semitism”.

Biologically speaking, there is only one human race

The colloquial term for a group with common physical features is race. That biologists have a different technical meaning isn’t relevant. If you deny that people categorize others and call it “race” then you deny racism.

Racial:

“relating to the major groupings into which humankind is sometimes divided on the basis of physical characteristics or shared ancestry.”

I’d argue its meaning had transcended its original linguistic root.

But this is religious discrimination. I’ve already shown that neither ethnic group nor racial group matters in this situation.

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