Excerpts:
“Seattle responded to the request by filing a lawsuit in Travis County, stating they cannot comply because Texas has no jurisdiction in Washington State, and no care was provided by the hospital in Texas. They also point out that the Dormant Commerce Clause, protected by the United States Constitution, “protects the right to interstate travel, including to obtain healthcare services.” By targeting out-of-state hospitals for enforcement of laws that only apply within the jurisdiction of Texas, they “discriminate against healthcare based on an interstate element,” violating constitutional protections, according to the legal filing. Lastly, Seattle Children’s Hospital cannot comply due to a shield law passed by Washington State. This law bars the hospital from providing any patient data and from responding to subpoenas pursuant to “protected healthcare services” obtained within the jurisdiction of Washington. Protected healthcare services include abortion, reproductive care, and gender-affirming care.”
“This case promises to be extraordinarily complex. Seattle Children’s Hospital is challenging the jurisdiction of the demands directly in a Texas state court. Regardless of what the local court decides, the claims are likely to go to the Texas Supreme Court. Given that the claims also have a time limit on them and that appeals in Texas automatically favor the attorney general due to an automatic lifting of stays in the state, Seattle Children’s Hospital workers and providers for trans patients from Texas could be under legal jeopardy. Ultimately, the case presents questions of conflicting state laws and regulation of conduct across state lines, and the implications of those laws could be dire for abortion and trans care nationwide.”
There’s way more people on the left than on the right, the only way to save this country at this point is for some of these people to start disappearing, or another full on civil war. The bullshit has to end, I’m tired of every day being more hate fueled evil from these fucking troglodytes.
The big problem with a Second Civil War is that it won’t be North vs South. It wouldn’t even be Red States vs Blue States. It would be Red Counties vs Blue Counties.
I live in NY - a deep blue state. I even live in a blue area of the state. If I drive less than 30 minutes from my house, though, I’d end up in an area so red that I might as well be in the deep south.
If there was an active Civil War, people in these red counties would travel to the blue counties to launch attacks (and vice versa). There would be no real “front line.” The entire country would be a front line.
I mean maybe. I have a hard time envisioning what a modern U.S. civil war would look like. What would be the organizations coordinating each side, and what would the chain of command look like? Who would be funding each side, and what would the supply chains look like? What would the actual U.S. military, pentagon, and DoD do?
Even the most red counties have something like 20% blue voters. I imagine voter demographics were comparable during the first Civil War, yet state governments still federated. Confederate states weren’t able to get many volunteers, so they brutally enforced conscription.
My best guess is that it would be less open warfare and more terrorist attacks. For example, suppose NYC has its annual Pride Parade. Some right-wingers would travel in from a red county and “join” the parade. At a certain point, they’d set off some incendiary device to disrupt the proceedings before retreating back to MAGA-land.
These attacks wouldn’t need a lot of ammunition or all that much coordination (when compared with a military). MAGA sheriffs could abuse their authority to protect MAGA terrorists from being arrested. (Leaking information to them. “Arresting” them first and refusing to turn them over to state/federal officials. Etc.)
With enough of these attacks, you could have a “war” without any military on either side.
I don’t thing this is true. If you label Democrat voters as “left” and Republican voters as “right,” then there is usually only around a 5% difference in the popular vote during presidential elections.
If you label “progressives” as “left,” and MAGA Republicans as “right,” I think the right actually has a big numbers advantage, judging by how mainstream it seems to be (FOX News vs MSNBC?). I don’t watch MSNBC, so I’m not actually sure if it’s really progressive, but what I’ve seen from FOX is pretty far right.
Going by the media probably isn’t a good barometer either of how the country leans, as most/all media outlets are owned by corporations and conservative-leaning investment-class folks who have no interest in left-leaning content. Even something like MSNBC will only go so far to the left, more like center-left and corporate-friendly.
I suspect most people are probably somewhere in the middle or left-leaning, not in total agreement with either party, but generally supportive of policies typically pushed by Democrats that help the broadest numbers of people, many are probably just politically agnostic and don’t care to even think about politics that much. However, Democrats suck at messaging and at actually getting their policies enacted, either through ineptitude, naivete, or by design, and the demographic groups they go after are also the least dependable when it comes to voting. So we’re left with Republicans usually getting their stuff pushed through because they have no shame and are willing to do questionable things in the pursuit of power.
IDK. Most people I personally know are right-leaning (unfortunately). Either for religious reasons, bigotry, or from drinking the “free-market” kool-aid. They definitely have a different outlook on things. They highly value the nuclear family, hierarchies, retribution, people getting what they “deserve,” etc. They think these things are what’s best for everybody. A lot of these people don’t really follow politics closely, they just think “killing babies” is evil (meaning abortion), the Democrats let crime run rampant, taxes hinder progress and the economy, men kissing is gross and unnatural, the gays, media, and trans’ are grooming children, etc.
funniest thing I’ve seen on here all day. You think Dems are left or something? The parties are on the same side, ignore their “good cop bad cop” routine, they’re there to benefit capital. Not us.
If you don’t see the difference between Democrats and Republicans, you’re not enlightened, you’re blind.
the difference is that when Ds have power they vountarily let Rs call the shots, like they did back in the Obama years when they had a supermajority and decided to let Rs dictate healthcare reform anyway. pay attention kid, they make different noises but they heel to the same masters. you’re picking between the fascist party and the collaborator party.
But the Republicans are the ones who put in the time and effort while the left is smoking doobies, playing their bongos, and masturbating.
#¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It takes more than having a majority.
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edit: The comment above this is literally hinting at violence.
Organizing around issues and engaging in direct action as well as political action is a good first step before we start plotting how to “disappear” people and wage war.
Yeah, it’s just billionaire funding, not gumption.
Left is king of grassroots movements that go nowhere because they can’t get funded while the right has daddy koch and murdock making it rain all the way down to altright and neonazi youtubers.
But call me a hippie conspiracy theorist and move on with your day, because you’re obviously not too bright.
Ah the ad hominem attack, the bread and butter of people who have a half-formed argument. The signal of a weak argument dressed in forceful garb.
This. I live in a “liberal” place and people look at me like I’m crazy when I tell them what the GOP is up to in the South. Sometimes they even laugh. Libs think we’re as ridiculous and safe to disregard as the MAGAs do. A genocide is coming and libs have their heads in the sand about it. Voting will not save us.
As a straight, white man, I don’t sweat it personally. I’ll be the last one thrown into a camp.
But the people who are more at risk need to get practical with their planning. Community organizing is a great place to start. And I’m not taking violence off the table if it’s in self-defense. But fantasizing online about taking up arms against the christo-fascists while skipping the planning stage and training is just going to get a lot of femboys raped and killed.
