Going through the spell list, there’s an awful lot of spells that are incredibly funny in the context of bedroom pastimes, here, let’s assume it’s heroism and Bear’s Endurance.

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Charisma is charm, not physical finesse.

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I’m pretty sure “physical finesse” is usually covered by Dexterity :)

Anyway, here’s Razira’s Attributes (She was originally constructed with the sidekick rules, but we keep giving her stuff and she’s getting quite powerful.)

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Technically, if you look at what Charisma rolls do in practice, it’s more akin to Constitution but for your mind. I personally like to use Constitution as the physical prettiness score and Charisma as the “force of will” stat.

I know that’s counterintuitive as hell, but it’s what the rules lead me to believe. You don’t roll Int/Wis to resist having your soul rent asunder, after all. Besides, I think this lines up with how attractiveness works irl. I’ve met plenty of physically attractive people who become absolutely repulsive when you just get to know them the tiniest bit.

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That’s weird. Wisdom has always been the resistance roll for soul stuff in my memory, except for its weird foray into the physical with perception checks.

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Maybe it’s a 5e thing. I only got into DnD in 4e when I was a kid, so maybe that was the transition point for that. As long as I have been playing, wisdom was for avoiding/deflecting psychic effects whereas Charisma was for withstanding effects that can just hit you with no chance of escape. It’s analogous to making dex save to dodge a poison dart trap, but having to make a Con save to resist the poison itself.

The way I have been exposed to it, you use Intelligence to see through an illusion, Wisdom to avoid being charmed, and Charisma to avoid being NPCified into a mindless thrall of the big bad.

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I suppose it’s better to say that for as long as I have been playing, the stats for “save or die” saving throws were either Constitution or Charisma. In fairness, these rolls were rare, but I have been trained that when the DM says “Make a Charisma saving throw” my bowels automatically loosen while I dig out my next character sheet from my folder.

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I just meant as opposed to strength, another main stat.

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