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Blame the DNC. They’re the one cramming shitty candidates down our throats. If OP is right, and voting for president is just changing the oil, it’s like getting charged $2000 for Dollar General oil.

Stop blaming voters. Field actual, progressive, leftist candidates. I am fucking sick of voting for right wing, war hawk Democrats to “save democracy.” We aren’t saving anything, just watching stock market addicted octagenarians kill the country slower than the other team.

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Yes, I want octagenarians that kill the country slower than the other team. Why? Because I know the game is rigged against the trust busting hero we actually need… but I’m hoping they’ll drop dead of “Being absurdly old” while we still have a country, so a younger generation can fix it.

Sorry, but there’s no easy hollywood solution where Sylvester Stallone blows up Capitalism, gets the girl, and throws UBI out of his “Just Married” sports car… Does that metaphor scan? I know that’s not really how movies work anymore… now it’s more like Tom Holland blows up Socialism because it ate a puppy in the third act to remind the audience it’s evil, doesn’t get the girl because getting the girl is “problematic” (which to be fair it kinda is), and then teases yet another god damn crossover event that we know and care nothing about…

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There is an easy solution.

Nearly every other democracy in the world uses it.

But the RNC and DNC have monopolized our political system and brainwashed the voting base against the real solution: voting for anyone else. Don’t be a coward and keep eating shit. Vote third party.

I live in a place where my voice and vote have been taken from me by gerrymandering and the electoral college. Millions of Americans live like this. If you want to eat shit and vote Biden to avoid eating more shit with Trump, I absolutely understand. It’s basic math.

But if you’re a liberal living in rural Tennessee like I am, and your vote is literal trash, I’d encourage every one of those people who’ve had their vote and choice stolen from them, like I have, to vote third party every time.

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Do not vote third party, I know it’s tempting to believe in a hero who will swoop in and fix all this, but the last time we elected someone because they were an “Outsider”, we got Trump, and it doesn’t matter, the system is rigged against third parties.

The Republicans actively encourage Third Parties to be as Left as they can, solely because they know they’re unelectable and will split the vote

God now I’m remembering Sean Haugh…

By continously throwing away your vote, you are guranteeing Tenessee stays the way it is

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There will always be more Josh Hawleys, because the shareholders of the GOP will find them, and get them nominated and then elected to safe seats.

You can’t wait out the GOP in the hopes that nature will take its course. It will never, ever stop.

We need an actual trust-busting, corruption-prosecuting bastard who isn’t afraid of keeping friends across the aisle, or preserving relationships with the right law firms or lobbying firms.

We need someone who will pack the court.

We need DC and PR to become states.

We need someone who will cut off federal dollars to parasitic red states for destroying representative democracy.

We need someone who will discipline people like Joe Manchin when they corruptly protect extractive industry. Turn off as much federal money to West Virginia as you can, and plaster the TV with ads saying “Joe Manchin made this happen.”

We need someone who isn’t afraid to be LBJ, or TR.

Basically, when the metaphorical foxes are running the henhouse, you need a bastard fox hunter. Not a slightly-less-increaingly-worse fox.

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And… you think this Fox Hunter is electable under the current system? Newsflash: Third Party Candidates will always lose

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Actual leftist candidates–or progressive candidates, because those are very much not the same thing–wouldn’t get even 10% of the primary votes, even if the DNC was entirely hands-off. They certainly wouldn’t get the kind of donations that they would need to run a successful national campaign. Genuine leftists simply aren’t popular in the US as a whole, even if Gen Z might trend more strongly towards certain aspects of socialism/communism/anarchism than people of my generation did.

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4 points

no, clearly we need to show our disapproval by letting the literal fascists win!

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This, I keep wondering what the hell the “Anarkiddies” expect, they act like we can just pull up to the CEO of Fascism’s house with a katana and be all “Nothing personnel kid!”

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Don’t be daft. You need to protest, demonstrate, educate, and engage in outreach and community building, and then when it’s time to vote, you need to vote strategically. Calling everyone a literal fascist that’s even a half-shuffle right of Bakunin isn’t going to help you.

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Actually it’s been found Left Wing ideas win elections pretty easily

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You’re changing my premise.

OP is saying that you should vote for leftists or progressives. I’m saying that they don’t tend to have strong enough support in the American electorate to win primaries. You’re saying that leftist or progressive ideas win elections. That’s not the same thing at all.

Certain progressive ideas have reached some kind of national consensus, like the idea that minimum wage needs to be a living wage. That’s still not popular in a lot of places, but okay, let’s roll with it. OTOH, major structural criminal justice reform–reduction in police, more addiction treatment programs (that aren’t based in religion), reform-minded prison, etc.—does not have popular support. Republicans are largely law-and-order/crime-and-punishment types, and a significant percentage of Dems are as well. Running on a ‘defund the police’ platform tends to cost people elections, which is why you see Biden increasing funding for cops. It doesn’t matter if data strongly suggests that the approach we’re using doesn’t work, and can’t work; people that see crime as a moral issue can’t accept anything other than punishment.

If you want to change all of this, you have to start long before elections.

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4 points

Yup. The DNC is what’s trying to stay in power, which is why Biden and Kamala were forced in, because they obey.

It’s also why Niki Hailey is being pushed on the news. They want her to win because she’ll also obey.

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Isn’t Niki Hailey a republican?

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3 points

Yes, but it doesn’t matter.

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