I literally do blame the Democrats for Trump, and if you don’t, you weren’t paying attention.

Plenty of us were critiquing Clinton’s campaign on those merits and were consistently talked down to in shocker the same way we’re being talked down to now. Shocker, she lost. I remember saying a few weeks before the election “We’re about to get Brexited.” I put my vote down for Clinton, because Trump is fucking insane, and that was clear before he was President. It was clear in the fucking 1980’s.

Being able to critique our leaders is supposed to be what is the difference between us and conservative voters. They’re the cult who unquestioningly believes all the bullshit that comes out of Trump’s mouth and diapers. I find it weird that people think we should be more like them in regards to our leaders like that would be a good thing.

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Okay, but it’s not the fall that’s a problem. Empires end all the time.

It’s what comes in between the fall and the next thing.

Because it can be a consensus that things need to change and a rational breakdown of how. That’s more or less how it went last time for the US. That happens. That’s an option.

Or it can be a big messy fight, which is more or less how that went immediately after that for the US.

Or it can be total domination from the fascists, at which point it’s no longer a US problem and one starts wondering if there is a “next thing” at all.

I’m sorry to be the bearer of even more bad news, but hitting rock bottom is a lot of work. You don’t get to relax and enjoy the ride, I’m afraid.

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I’m not worried. I’m sure you’ll get there. You can’t keep this up.

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Oh, you can. For decades. Because if you don’t, a time will come when you don’t get a choice at all, and that can last for decades, too.

And no, I won’t get over it. The more disinterest and lack of urgency I see from people the less I get over it, in fact.

I think there’s a lack of remembered trauma, perhaps. It certainly doesn’t sink in to many Americans. That’s why the Germans immediately went out to protest, but the American frog is calmly simmering. You do you, but I find it irresponsible to keep everybody else in the splash zone.

In any case, I think the question has been answered.

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That’s why the Germans immediately went out to protest, but the American frog is calmly simmering.

It couldn’t be something like Americans were involved in literally the largest worldwide protests ever leading up to the Iraq War and it did nothing to stop the war. It couldn’t be that Occupy Wall Street being ushered out of the park by armed police had nothing to do with it either.

Just get out and protest guys! Don’t forget you can’t leave the Free Speech Zone!

Remember George Floyd, well all our protests resulted in *checks notes… The largest police budgets in the history of the US!

Give me a break.

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