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I have always found this argument to be hilarious in a deeply sexist way.

Why? Because it takes two to tango.

If young women really did find older men repulsive and creepy, why do so many of them date older men? Why do a fair number of them marry older men, especially in this era of unprecedented economic opportunities for women?

The fact is, such attitudes against a very historically normal pairing is shaming two people who are functional adults for their very adult choices and decisions.

Or do you somehow disagree that an 18-yo woman isn’t a “functional adult”? Because I see that attitude of infantilizing and bubble-wrapping women against the consequences of their own choices and decisions as deeply sexist, and a prime example of misogyny.

Meanwhile, men of that exact same age can be forcibly conscripted to fight and die in some foreign oil-war that they never had an opportunity to vote against. How are we adult enough at that age to die without any choice in the matter, but women aren’t adult enough to choose whom to be with?

Gotta love that gender bigotry.

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People are probably not functional adults until 23-25. But it’s harder to mold a 25yo to die in a war for you than a 18yo.

I do agree with your general point - it takes two to tango. And a lot of the older women complaining have themselves dated across the chasm when they were younger.

It always felt odd to me and still does though - I feel that the larger the gap the more it reveals deeper issues for both sides.

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What I also find deeply hypocritical is how many of these women treat a gender chasm in the first place:

  • Young woman with older man? That pervert! He’s a pedophile!!
  • Older woman with a young guy? You go, girl! Ride him like a cowgirl!

And yes, that age gap can be identical in both examples.

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And yet plenty of women also shame older women that are preying on much younger men too. That’s not making a point it’s trying to make an excuse.

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For me, it’s not the age gap so much as maturity gap and, more importantly, the power differential. When I was in my late teens and early twenties, I didn’t have my shit together in any way nor did I have a good level of maturity and self-confidence.

The power differential between one in their 40s or 50s (hell, even 30s) and late-teens/early-twenties means that healthy relationships are the exception, not the norm.

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5 points

Bro have you seen how much Larsa Pippen has been (rightfully imo) dragged in the Bravo community for dating Marcus Jordan?!

That shit ain’t cute in either direction!

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4 points

It makes me wonder why people praise Harold and Maude and vilify Manhattan, though I suppose the director of Harold and Maude didn’t marry someone Harold’s age. But most people agree that Harold walked away a better person, despite having Maude woo him and rip herself away immediately.

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11 points

But it’s harder to mold a 25yo to die in a war for you than a 18yo.

Yup. Between education and maturity, I became a (mostly) pacifist by 25, after fully intending to join up before I started uni.

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It’s been scientifically proven that 18 year olds’ brains aren’t fully developed. Biologically, no you are not an adult at 18. Arguing that it’s all good because both parties are ostensibly consenting adults is besides the point. The older party, no matter what gender, shouldn’t be chasing people well outside their peer group. There’s obviously a layer of manipulation when 2 people of wildly different ages get together.

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11 points

18 year olds aren’t really adults.

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why do so many of them date older men?

Do they?

Or do you somehow disagree that an 18-yo woman isn’t a “functional adult”?

I do, because your brain doesn’t finish maturing until you’re 25.

Meanwhile, men of that exact same age can be forcibly conscripted to fight and die in some foreign oil-war that they never had an opportunity to vote against.

That’s wrong, too. The age of conscription should be 25, for the reason I gave above.

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9 points

You just argued for men not being drafted at 18 - they are mere kids. Women, on the other hand!

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I didn’t argue for anyone being drafted. I was referencing how the person I was responding to mentioned it.

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Just say you’re attracted to teenagers and stop wasting everyone’s time. The answers to your questions have been discussed countless times.

Creep.

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