123 points

I’m a 30 year old man and I couldn’t imagine chasing 18 year olds. I teach college students, I speak to 18 year olds regularly. They’re not for me.

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74 points

When I was a teen I wonder if I’m older if I would still be attracted to teens. I was training a coworker a few years ago, and she’s fresh out of highschool. As soon as we diviated from work conversations I can feel any miniscule amount of attraction I had drain out from my body.

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14 points

I experience this too, what happened in that conversation that drained you?

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18 points

For me it’s social media. I’m old enough that I don’t do social media. But 95% of teenagers’ lives revolve around it. I can’t relate and have no desire to.

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37 points

There is a big difference between sex and a relationship.

If I werent married I’d absolutely screw a woman half my age, but dating one… I see complications.

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12 points

But that’s… not the issue here? Men are much more attractive when they are 20 compared to 40 as well.

That doesn’t make me creep around university trying to get into their pants. It also doesn’t inspire me to write sexist stuff online, etc.

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14 points

Im saying that its biologically healthy to look at a young attractive person (of your preferred gender) and go “Yep, I would really like to do things with that person” It is however societaly problematic to be a perv in trying to make it happen and does raise some awkward questions about what a guy is really looking for if he wants to be with someone half his age.

As for the sexist stuff online. You ever seen some womens wishlists on dating sites? Now I aint saying shes a gold digger… but you know the rest of it.

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2 points

There’s a lot of women after young studs. A lot don’t see issues with that. Young people are generally seen as hotter.

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6 points

Please be at least 36

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-1 points

Turning 40 this year.

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5 points

But how about 22? 24? 21 maybe?

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Most of the males between 27-32yo I know would definetely do an 18yo girl given the chance, but none of them are actively looking for one because it is weird.

I guess it is more like a fantasy kind of deal. If I had to guess the reason is that young women are more sexually active than 30yo women. Friends with gfs always complain that it’s pretty hard to get them in the mood, like they have to beg. Men are just more sexual than women in general.

Just had a friend break up with his gf because she would use sex as a manipulation tool.

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26 points

Young women are not more sexually active. There’s a ton of research that younger people are less and less sexual. So maybe stop making things up and posting them online.

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5 points

I mean technically since you have not provided any of this research you are also just making things up and posting them online. Regardless of whether or not you’re correct giving no source, and if asked saying “do your own research” (which you haven’t done I’m just doing an inb4) just makes you sound like one of those crazy conspiracy theorists or something

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“If I had to guess”. I was guessing, followed by personal experiences… I never said “here’s the absolute truth”.

You know it is possible to correct someone without being a total ass? Plus, I wasn’t talking about facts but instead about what males think. If you asked 1000 males who they think is more sexually active between a 20yo or a 40yo, what do you think the results would be.

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Some confidently incorrect shit here lol.

Older faces are rated as less attractive than younger faces and treated like a category when making aesthetic judgments.

Older perceivers are less influenced by the age of the viewed face than younger and middle-aged perceivers.

Men, more than women, distinguish more clearly between faces when judging attractiveness, especially in female faces.

Aging has less of an effect on judgments of elegance than beauty and gorgeousness.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0001691821001359

Previous research examining stereotypes of the elderly also found that older adults were judged to be less attractive (Ebner, 2008; Löckenhoff et al., 2009), and other research has shown that age stereotypes are linked not simply to chronological age, but also to physical appearance. Specifically, unattractive physical qualities, such as wrinkling, gray hair, and baldness, are associated with more negative impressions of elderly faces (Hummert, 1994; Muscarella and Cunningham, 1996; Hummert et al., 1997). In addition, Zebrowitz et al. (2003) found that, compared with younger faces, older faces showed greater resemblance to faces with genetic anomalies and this contributed not only to impressions of older faces as less attractive, but also to impressions of them as less healthy, sociable, and intelligent than younger faces. More generally, the well documented attractiveness halo effect (Eagly et al., 1991) provides reason to believe that the lower attractiveness of older faces would augment negative stereotoypes, like incompetence, and weaken positive stereotypes, like warmth. Older and younger faces differ in many ways besides attractiveness. One that will be examined in the present research is a possible difference in their resemblance to emotion expressions. Research has documented an influence of emotion resemblance on impressions of warmth and competence (Zebrowitz et al., 2007, 2010) and, as discussed more fully below, there is reason to expect differences between younger and older faces.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5627340/

Like YA, OA showed both the attractiveness halo effect and the babyface stereotype. However, OA showed weaker effects of attractiveness on impressions of untrustworthiness, and only OA associated higher babyfaceness with greater competence. There also was own-age accentuation, with both OA and YA showing stronger face stereotypes for faces closer to their own age. Age differences in the strength of the stereotypes reflected an OA positivity effect shown in more influence of positive facial qualities on impressions or less influence of negative ones, rather than vice versa.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4020290/

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A lot of of younger women/girls are, in fact, much more sexually active. Especially these days because hormonal birth control is known to permanently lower libido. Also, hormones.

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2 points

This is just false. Women, on average, are most sexually active in their 30s. We have known this for ever… And somehow this garbage thought that young women are more sexual keeps showing up in male focused narratives.

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71 points

It’s definitely more of a combination of disgust and secondhand embarrassment. When I was 18, my mid-30s manager was clearly into me and I definitely thought he was creepy and old and everyone made fun of him behind his back. Now that I’m on the other side, it doesn’t look any less pathetic. 18 year olds look like children because I’m old enough to be their parent, and the only thing I’ve ever felt for one is vaguely maternal affection. The idea of dating them is super gross.

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OK I’ll be the one to go against the grain in these comments. I am a nearly 40 year old man and I would bang a hot college girl in an instant. I can’t help that.

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69 points

Theres also a YAWNING FUCKING CHASM between “Yes, If I were single I would really like to have a woman almost half my age find me sexually attractive enough to fuck me” and going out of your way to try and make it happen.

Also, like none of those 35yo women ever went and flicked the bean after watching the 20yo who mows their lawn go shirtless in summer.

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Oh for sure. I wouldn’t want to be a creepy guy to a young person. But the other comments were all like “I’m not even attracted to young beautiful women”

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I’m not even attracted to young beautiful women

Depends entirely on how old the person saying it is which is will vary wildly from commenter to commenter.

No because 18-year-olds are kids. I’m not even close to 40 and I think 18-year-olds are kids (especially from an emotional maturity perspective). 20s would be like the absolute youngest.

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6 points

PC-pissing contest for 30-somethings. It’s a trend.

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45 points

I’m a guy and when I was 18 I got a lot of interest from women in their 40s. Sexual attraction is just natural.

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Yeah, but it didn’t start at 18 did it. A number of women hit on me when I was under 18 and no one would think anything of it. We are groomed into it starting with calling 6 year old boys handsome young men and he’s a cute kid.

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7 points

Lots and lots of people would think plenty about an older woman coming onto a minor.

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Is it really grooming if it’s just how everyone in society acts?

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-21 points

That’s on you for attending those kinds of parties.

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0 points

boooo boooo get outta here boooo

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31 points

There’s a lot you can help here, though.

  1. Don’t be a creep.

  2. Don’t lie to your partner about this.

  3. Don’t spin some weird sexist or misogynistic bs theories out of your attraction.

That’s it. Doesn’t seem too hard but you’d be surprised how many are struggling with these simple rules of decency and respect.

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17 points

Did you mean FOR an instant?

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8 points

Also yes.

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Nobody should be judging any two adults about a consenting nonabusive relationship.

After all, women polish the pearl to only age appropriate book porn that has nothing to do with poorly narrated but critically succesful actual rape fantasies built on having no idea what consent means lol.

You can think a 30 year old and 18 year old shouldn’t be dating or fucking all you want. But I’m pretty sure the old pricks and women scoffing at it are doing more virtue signalling than they are lol.

Don’t want people fucking 18 year olds? Raise the age of consent.

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7 points

The age of consent isn’t the issue, it’s the objectification of people that haven’t even hit physical maturity yet.

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Physical maturity is such a terrible thing to quantify lmfao.

And again, age of consent is ABSOLUTELY THE ISSUE IF YOU BELIEVE 18 YEAR OLDS ARENT SEXUALLY MATURE.

It’s literally, not even metaphorically, the crux of the issue if you believe there’s one.

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2 points

It was a real eye opener to me when I started dating to find out just how many women would literally ask to be raped. I probably attract that type more than average because of my physical stature, but still it really creeped me out. Never took anyone up on it.

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6 points

I don’t think you can ask to be raped. I think the not getting permission part of it is the important bit.

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4 points

What you’re talking about is roleplay…

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1 point

Yeah? How many are we talking about? I don’t necessarily have a small body count and I’ve never had this happen to me.

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Consensual non-consent != rape.

Though personally, I find that shit a landmine just waiting to explode - that and frankly “Yes” is hotter to me than “No*”. But more power to those able to navigate the boundaries successfully where everyone’s happier and satisfied for it. If nothing else, master communicators.

Edit: For those who downvoted, seriously, I get it. But it’s definitely a thing, and some people happily participate. I’ve met some - usually very nice folks (as are most people I’ve met involved in kink communities). I’ll also underscore that this is very much NOT the norm - but still more common than people might think.

Decentish broad-strokes article here: https://www.choosingtherapy.com/consensual-non-consent/

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60 points

I’m 46 and married, but if I was single, I absolutely wouldn’t want someone almost 30 years younger than me. We’d have so little in common! I suppose if you just look at women as objects to stick your dick into…

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36 points

I’m dating someone 8 years younger than me and the only way I think it works is that she likes me enough to learn all the references I make she doesn’t understand.

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11 points

My wife is only 2ish years younger than me, and she already doesn’t get some references purely through upbringing. Only a couple things have been “before her time”

However, her best friend recently turned 24, married to someone who just hit 21. It feels like talking to children.

And since between the 2 of us we have 12 nieces and nephews under 15 and I speak to them whenever we’re visiting I feel like I can say with a little certainty, it reeeeally feels like talking to children sometimes.

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2 points

That sounds very cute and wholesome

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53 points

Not to mention, as a 30+ year old, looking at 18 year olds feels…gross. They look like children.

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18 points

After 40, the “child age” jumped to like 25 for me. As in those under 25 look like children.

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4 points

25 is when your brain finishes maturing, so it’s when adulthood actually starts. The crazy thing is that we let people join the military, rack up credit card debt, etc. well before that age.

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2 points

Can you imagine if we raised the drinking age to 25?

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The flip side of that is so wild. Remember being like 12 and an 18 year old seemed so grown up? Now I see an 18 year old and…yeah that’s a child, bro

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9 points

Yeah I’ve got some divorced dad friends who like the college age women and they are just boring AF to talk to. I don’t get it.

Pretty? sure, but boring AF. Give me a little baggage and some life stories and I’m in.

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4 points

Okay, this is gonna come off creepy… but there are interesting college students. They are just few and far between.

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Are you trying to imply that humans have a variety of personalities and experiences in life?! Creep! /s

Old/young relationships CAN be not creepy and potentially abusive but, like you say, they’re few and far between. Better to try to be friends in most cases.

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4 points

These guys don’t want somebody to talk to. They want to relive feeling that age again, but they also want somebody who doesn’t have much life experience. Odds are, women their own age won’t put up with their bullshit, and they want somebody who won’t push back on them

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