according to @Custoslibera’s post

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Liberalism is a pro-free market Capitalist idea centered on the ideas of individual liberty. This is right wing. It isn’t fascism, but it’s also not leftist.

The divide between left and right is who you think should own and control the Means of Production: the Workers, or Capitalists.

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I’m honestly shocked at how many times I’ve needed to explain this, it’s quite a bother.

In America, liberal = Liberalism. I get it.

I never said Liberalism*, I said liberal. Outside of America, liberal colloquially means those pertaining to the liberal ideology (not the liberalism ideology). Refer to the dictionary definition above for what the liberal ideology is.

*(Nevermind I did say liberalism in a parallel post. Again, I’m not from America, but in context with the screenshot of the definition it’s pretty clear I’m referring to liberal ideology)

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No, liberalism means liberal, even outside America.

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It doesn’t

There is really no need to be this stubborn. Look it up yourself.

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those pertaining to the liberal ideology (not the liberalism ideology)

This is confusing, you seem to be using colloquial definitions of liberal with political ones interchangeably, but in the context of the political right denouncing liberal political projects as “woke” suggests you mean political liberals in the US.

When I see liberal parties in other countries, namely Europe, they are classed as center-right. Here in Canada they’re a little more spread out but economic right for sure. For just a quick example, I support strong affirmative action, but for political liberals that has become watered down to “equality of opportunity” and disparity frameworks.

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It is very confusing for sure, I’ve been chasing my own tail all night lol.

The way I’ve been using liberal is how it is defined in that definition. I don’t mean it as “a lot”.

In a parallel post I mentioned how the context it was used within my university classes meant as the definition as posted in my screenshot, and not as liberalism, which is naturally incompatible with the definition above.

When I referred to right-wing denouncing poltical liberals, I didn’t mean Liberalists, I meant those who hold the beliefs of the left/progressive.

To clarify, when I say liberal, I mean those who hold the values based on the definition I provided (leftists/progressives).

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