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I suggest you literally read anything. You haven’t even read easy stuff like Blackshirts and Reds if you really believe that fascists don’t like capitalism.

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Protecting yourself from competition through monopolization of force is literally what capitalism is all about.

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Fascism is capitalism’s last line of defense against the threat of revolution. While fascist do manage the economy somewhat differently than liberals they absolutely AREN’T against capitalism.

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“They took our jobs” isn’t opposition to capitalism it is knee jerk reactionary sentiment. No one who says that actually subscribes to anti capitalist ideology.

You need to go back and read Blackshirts and Reds and learn about how fascism ultimately serves the interests of capital. You clearly lack the knowledge and ideological framework to understand this issue.

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That’s not opposing capitalism, that’s opposing globalization. Also that is the outcry fascists sometimes capitalize from, not a policy. Look at how the fascists went from parroting that right wing populist line, to empowering corporations. Mottos are not ideologies, corporatism is WAY more vital to fascism than complaining about immigrants taking jobs

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Shane Burley says it better than I did @DoiDoi@hexbear.net @ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml @TreadOnMe@hexbear.net @QueerCommie@hexbear.net :

A Third Way
Over the last two decades, the contemporary left has often confused the definition of fascism, especially in discussions about the increasingly authoritarian nature of institutions propping up neoliberal capitalism. While it would be wrong to say that fascism, as a general rule, is purely anti-capitalist, it does implicitly critique capitalism as a free-market system. Capitalism may rely on the latent bigotry and social inequality in a society, but it also disrespects national boundaries, tribal allegiances, and non-economic hierarchies. What this means is that, while the left critiques capitalism for its inability to deliver broad equality, the far-right critiques it for not being explicitly racialized and unequal enough. Capitalism benefits merchants who broaden their customer base rather than privileging a specific group, and increasingly globalized trade breaks down national boundaries and benefits an international ruling class. Neoliberalism steamrolls regional diversity and cultural differences in the same way that it destroys individuality and personal expression, as a monster that goes after what makes us human.

Fascism is an attempt to answer the unfinished equation of capitalism, and, instead of challenging the inequalities manifested through this economic system, it hardens them.

This matters in terms of political (or revolutionary) strategy. We are in a three way fight between neoliberal capitalism, fascism and socialism. The question then is what can be done to pit those two against each other and not cooperate against socialism.

As capitalism leads to globalization and worse and worse material conditions, fascism is a narrative that still works to maintain concentration of economic power. It promises (and lies) to make shit great again. And while those concentrations of economic power fundamentally don’t care about ideology, many people in positions of power do find the aesthetics of fascism unappealing on an aesthetic level. That can be tapped into.

Even just from a strategic perspective: Divide and conquer.

So the critique of Jon Steward of this farce is absolutely important but just as important is the prevention of the worst case outcome. Even if you believe that fascism is the inevitable outcome sooner or later, personally I believe later is better because it allows more groups of people time to prepare.

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Please read actual historians and / or theory like the already mentioned Blackshirts and reds. Fascism is definitionally capitalism in decay and the capitalist’s violent protection of the remnants against any emerging threats. To suggest that fascists are not capitalists is completely ludicrous.

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