how are you going to protect this revolution from the next one?

There’s an entire intellectual tradition about this called Marxism-Leninism. There are successful Marxist-Leninist governments that exist right now, including the largest nation on earth. We aren’t aren’t talking about a fantasy here, there is is over a hundred years of paractice and two hundred of theory, if you’re interested in our worldview

As you said, the government doesn’t work for us. I don’t know of any structure that truly does

Liberal democracy does not work for us - as in the people who are not in the ruling class. That isn’t because of some immutable characteristic of all governments, it is by the design of the US government and all liberal democracies.

They were designed by and to work to the benefit of the ruling class - capitalists. That’s why it doesn’t work for us. Thats the key element and that’s what we advocate for a change of. The only way to change things in through class struggle - and placing power in the hands of our class.

But the alternative is anarchy, and that’s not going to work either.

We have anarchists here and we keep the place non-sectarian. MLs would agree but not for the same reasons as you. Our disagreement is that we need the power of a state to safeguard the gains of a revolution against the global capitalist class and their state forces. Anarchists have a different view, but they understand the importance of revolutionary class struggle and disagreements aside, their theory of change is infinitely more grounded in reality than yours

Corruption is a fundamental problem of any system of governance, and it reaches a point where the only route to defeat it is to kill the fucking cheats who set it up.

Voting is nit going to fix a system that has intentionally broken voting to invalidate you. Only revolution can do that.

What’s sad is that you think you’re the one being realistic, when your theory of change is complete fantasy.

What we’re talking about has been done and accomplished before and exists in the real world, including the largest nation on earth. What you’re talking about has never happened

And this is achieved through voting how? We need a radical in the white house by november.

Let me paraphrase what you said for you:

“I will eat shit forever because the people forcefeeding me shit taught me that any alternative involves me eating shit AND drinking piss”