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Nah, no need for this kind of gatekeeping. Anyone who deals with js and its billions of frameworks on a daily basis deserves to be called a developer.

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Agreed.

We also deserve to be called, every so often, to see how we’re doing.

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Heyyy its your super duper new project manager! I hope you are feeling a-mazing because you are my a-ce on the team. Anyways i need you to do things twice as fast, because we are running low on budget after sales promised another feature without extra billing and the CEO already signed off on it. Please make this happen somehow. If this project isn’t succesfull i’ll get fired and have to sell the house. But no pressure!

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Do you even know why you hate PHP?

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Note that that hasn’t existed in PHP for years.

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Blame MySQL for that. The PHP API just mirrors the MySQL C API of the same name. https://dev.mysql.com/doc/c-api/8.0/en/mysql-real-escape-string.html

Modern PHP doesn’t use it - any modern code uses PDO with prepared statements.

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Never used it in over 23 years of using PHP. Also, I don’t thing that has existed anymore for the past 10 years or so?

Seriously, if we’re going to do this, can we also bitch about painful java apps from 10 years ago, or the hilariously shitty modules in node from 10 years ago? I can go on for a while, but you hopefully get the point.

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That article is over a decade old. A lot of these issues aren’t relevant any more or have been fixed. Some weren’t even PHP issues, for example mysql_real_escape_string is a MySQL API (https://dev.mysql.com/doc/c-api/8.0/en/mysql-real-escape-string.html).

PHP isn’t the best language, but it’s not as bad as some people claim it to be, especially if you use a good framework like Laravel.

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That is literally a decade old article with basically 1 complaint that sometimes functions are strpos() and sometimes str_len(). Anything else it’s saying is “I don’t even know how to say it”. Really now? Any of your complaints have been fixed since about a decade ago, so why don’t you give it a try?

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I’m a full-stack web developer and am involved all the way through including cloud infrastructure, API development, database creation/maintenance, test automation, architecture etc.

I guess what makes a “developer” in your context different? Embedded? Kernel?

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Only those who code in the same language as I am can be called developers. Everyone else is just an impostor and their technology doesn’t matter! Real programmers use my language of choice

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If you don’t daily x86 assembly, do you even know anything about computers?

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Have you heard about our lord and savior Rust? 🙏

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Just like my $variables I can be anything I want. Deal with it! 🫳🎤

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As if webapps aren’t usurping mobile and desktop apps, anything not C# or .NET is a toy language?

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So if I’m using Rust to write a web app that compiles to WebAsm, what am I?

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Scooters are more efficient, get you where you need to go and cost less to maintain. Your analogy is actually pretty good in that regard.

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To be fair, we do develop stuff. Nothing implies quality, so it’s not like we’re misrepresenting anything. Personally, anyone who calls themselves a software engineer and works with any web-related technology (PHP, JavaScript, etc) are the ones to be shunned.

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🖕

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