Some domestic violence centre near me got closed down because feminists kept protesting its existence.
Feminists got things to answer for.
Men aren’t always the issue. Men need male places, women don’t like that. Men can be victims, women don’t like that. What I seen in the world men are a lot more sympathetic to mens issue. Women just brush it off and say all mens issues are due to men and that really women are the victims.
Nah. Feminists didn’t create the mess that systemically harms men. What actually creates it is systemic patriarchy. If you’ve never heard of Earl Silverman, give his story a read. He did try to create many of the things you advocate for, and the things that caused their failure was not feminists. It’s a tragedy.
That being said, we absolutely still need non toxic spaces where men can heal and be great allies to themselves and others
Their point is that a lot of women, and possibly most women, are not feminists. Which means they enforce patriarchy, as do most people who aren’t feminists.
Equating women with feminists is dangerous and counterproductive
Equating women with feminists is dangerous and counterproductive
Duh. A lot of men like me are feminists. A lot more of them are ones without realising it.
So all feminists have completely clean hands?
That’s the issue I’m raising.
As in the real world I’ve seen issues from women but not issues from men. But you go online and no women has ever done anything wrong and all men as bastards.
Not the case at all. I’m a big fan of bell hooks for example, but she’s not perfect. Still, she raises good points, like feminism is for everyone and that patriarchy can hurt men just as much as women.
Internet’s an echo chamber, so it’s good to get out and just talk to real people and ask them what’s important.
Probably nobody has completely clean hands. Are you suggesting that only perfect people can attempt good work and all others are suspect? What about redemption?
Some domestic violence center near me got closed down because feminists kept protesting its existence.
Name names. I’d like to know if they were actually closed because of protests or if the supposed protests were unrelated to them closing. Even if there were protests and they closed, those two events don’t have to be related.
I’m aware of historic examples. The person I was replying to was being vague about where and when their experience happened to perpetuate a narrative. By not naming names, we conclude that it’s a generalization. Even if it is true, feminism isn’t a monolith and this isn’t acceptable behavior. Educated feminists know that poor mental health for men only hurt their situation.
