Is it not incredible how the same people who are talking about how the west is descending into fascism also think that the west has moral superiority over the rest of the world and has the right to impose their values on the global majority.

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I have met people from the US (in person!) who genuinely think along the following lines:

  • Them: The election is coming up and I hate Trump, so I’ll probably vote for Biden.

  • Me: But Biden is just as bad as Trump, and is facilitating war and Genocide.

  • Them: Yeah maybe, but Trump is way worse for AMERICANS domestically, because he wants to take away LGBT and minority rights, so he’s the greater evil

  • Me: Why vote for evil at all? Why not pick a third party with better policies overall?

  • Them: Because that’s unrealistic and they have no chance.

I don’t understand how they think that they are bastions of democracy and morality in the world when they rationalize voting for literal warmongering genociders on the grounds that at the very least the genocide is happening abroad and they don’t have to care about it so long as they themselves have their social justices intact. And what tf sort of democracy do they have when the most basic concept of people choosing their leaders is done away with so easily that they resign themselves to one of two options because they cannot be bothered to take part in their politics beyond choosing red or blue instead of attempting to build some sort of opposition to them.

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Yup, that’s literally the only argument I’ve seen libs articulate when pressed. Gotta vote for the lesser evil because there are no other options, but also this is the best system possible folks.

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They do the same thing to capitalism:

Sure, capitalism means slavery and oppression but it’s the best system out of a bad bunch. Have you considered how bad it would be if we became communist?

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yup

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The whiplash from “were great because democracy and everybody gets to have a real meaningful choice” to “you might not like it but this is democracy so this is the only vote that makes sense, if you do anything else you’re wasting your vote and youre also a republican” is pretty overwhelming

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Them: Because that’s unrealistic and they have no chance

Which means the system is incapable of producing a decent outcome and must therefore be overthrown

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