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53 points

The Lemmy devs are a bunch of tankie weirdos, so I’m definitely not going to give money to them.

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40 points

Yeah they have made it clear they don’t want me around, on top of that. Donate to instances, not the devs.

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Thanks. I was about to post that I haven’t yet decided whether to donate to my instance or the developers. I might just go with your opinion

Edit: although after reading, I’m not entirely sure. Part of supporting freedom to discuss is also supporting freedom to discuss things you disagree with or even things that are genuinely hateful. I do tend to end up more on the free speech side than the cancel side. The posted thread from archive at least the complainant moved on: we need to be able to vote with our feet like that

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Lemmy.ml is the devs instance, and they have a habit of banning anyone who even slightly differs from their opinions. Basically, if you’re not a tankie like them, they will likely ban you.

They’re not interested in free discussions.

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11 points

But they just personally don’t want that on their instance while they create the lemmy software that allows for everyone to speak their opinions.

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Slight correction: Lemmy.ml is their reach-out and diplomacy instance. Their actual instance is lemmygrad.

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15 points

Trust me, the Lemmy devs do not support freedom of discussion.

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8 points

Yeah, they donated their spare time to give you a decentralized platform where you could criticize them because they want to stifle “freedom of discussion”… That the lemmy.ml instance is heavily moderated on stuff like imperialist propaganda is a non-issue for freedom of expression due to the nature of federation. The devs do not even want their instance (lemmy.ml) to be the biggest, but actively promote joining other instances.

You confuse your right to express your opinions with the privilege of someone else providing you a platform for you to express them on. The devs provide the former without obligating themselves to be the ones to give you the latter.

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1 point

You are confusing freedom of discussion to using an specific instance with specific rules. Lemmy is clear proof of what you say is not true, and you are incorrect in your deductions of what/why and who.

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7 points

I’ll hang into my cash and hope for a fork by some non-tankie devs.

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I just want Reddit back, it was much better. But it’s dead.

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Its been dead ever since normies found it and took it over. Around when /r/wtf turned into into a G rated Disney movie to appease advertisers or soccer moms, etc.

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I know, it’s such a shame.

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-6 points

I’d bet my life savings they’re already funded by the CCP/Kremlin.

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5 points

… Can I have your reasoning? Just because they are communists doesn’t mean they are foreign agents, all it means is that they are authoritarians. Besides,idue to lemmy’s federated nature the governments would be better off infiltrating or straight up buying larger social media companies

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A lot of them aren’t actually communists, that’s a facade. I have no problem with most communists, it’s a wonderful theory and I get along much better with them than actual capitalists. In fact, I suspect a lot of them aren’t even people, they’re LLMs.

Lemmy.ml is a mouthpiece for the CCP. They aggressively spread CCP talking points. I abandoned an old account because they followed me around and downvoted everything I posted. This was right after the reddit exodus so I was posting positive, funny memes to help Lemmy grow. They’re very quick to delete and ban people who disrupt their echo chamber, and in my experience they almost never argue in good faith. A lot of them seem like bots, if you talk to them you’ll get weird, non sequitur responses.

Lemmy is a easy target for propaganda, there’s very little oversight.

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not every idiot on the internet is funded by the ccp

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Of course, but when someone is involved in leadership of a community that constantly spreads CCP propaganda and organizes to maliciously downvote people who push back against it, it’s quacking like a duck.

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