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Their campaign is literally “It’ll be worse under the other guy.”

Losing now is the best way for them to win in four years. It is how it has been for decades. When’s the last time one party held the presidency for two consecutive candidates? It’s a neverending metronome, except the needle moves more to the right each time.

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11 points

Assuming that we’ll have fair elections in 4 years if Trump wins may prove to be one of the worst mistakes this country’s voters have ever made.

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4 points

When was the last time there was a fair election? Both parties conventions cram the most unpopular candidates down your throats, and always slowly sliding to the right.

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Just because something is bad doesn’t mean it can’t get much worse. Look at elections in Russia and China if you need inspiration.

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2 points

Sounds like Biden should stop sending weapons to Israel and vow to veto any attempts to block a rail strike in his next term.

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3 points

Dude we’re unprecedented territory and that is basically a gambler’s fallacy. There’s absolutely no reason to believe that the patterns of the past will continue. For example, Biden already disrupted the power of the Incumbent president and ousted Donald short of 2 terms, which itself is a rarity not seen since Carter.

“Worse than the other guy” is basically all that people can take at this point, and I think the best argument going into the election. It works because it’s one of the only arguments against valid criticisms of Biden. “Yes, he is old; but he is better than the other guy for x, y, and z.” Nothing wrong with this strategy.

I do agree that Democrats need to punch back harder, though.

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I do agree that Democrats need to punch back harder, though

Specifically, they desperately need to punch Netanyahu in the face and cut off arms shipments, because polling shows that people in the US are pissed as hell that we are enabling genocide and Netanyahu repeatedly publicly humiliates Biden in a way that could not be a more obvious sign that Netanyahu is banking on Trump winning.

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I honestly hope you’re right, so would you mind linking me to that polling?

My concern is this: Last I checked a majority of Jewish Americans are still pretty sympathetic to Israel, and the Biden administration must toe the line between pissing off Palestinian Americans and Progressives, and a large traditionally-loyal voting bloc that is Jewish Americans.

If Democrats pivot hard against Netanyahu, they run the risk of Republican ads appealing to low-education voters that, “Biden is sympathetic to Hamas and has no sympathy for October 7th, undermining the defense of Israel and risking another terrorist attack! iS BiDen an aNtiSeMiTe!?”

So from a strategic standpoint, I completely understand the predicament the Biden strategists are in. Obviously you can tell they want to distance themselves from Israel and Netanyahu but not without undermining an essential voting bloc and letting the literal fascist in office who DEFINITELY does not care remotely about being complicit in genocide.

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2 term presidents: Obama 2009-2017, G.W. Bush 2001-2009, Clinton 1993-2009. so every president for 3 decades except Bush and Trump.

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6 points

They said two candidates, not two terms.

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They also said 4 years.

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When’s the last time one party held the presidency for two consecutive candidates?

Obama? Then immediately before that W? Then immediately before that Clinton?

In the last 50 years only Bush Sr and Trump have served single terms.

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Two consecutive candidates. As in two different people, who run under the same party. Not two terms.

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