Not to defend a Clinton, but she makes some good points if you actually read the article
Na. It still basically amounts to “get over yourself, our guy good the other guy bad”. It completely ignores legitimate grievances of the Biden administration.
Na. It still basically amounts to “get over yourself, our guy good the other guy bad”.
Yeah, we’re being expected to accept second worst as good.
It completely ignores legitimate grievances of the Biden administration.
Completely ignoring legitimate grievances is kinda the party’s whole thing.
Deciding to vote against Biden (or not vote for him) because you have legitimate grievances against him is completely ignoring Trump.
Yeah, I guess the Democratic Party should have considered that before they gave so many people reasons to have legitimate grievances against Biden
Thank you. Not the biggest fan of the Clintons, but she said the same thing everyone on here says every day. Sucky choice, but one guy is an outright crook, so just vote.
This is an appearance on a comedy show to promote her new show, not a formal press conference anyway.
I was going to stay out of this one, but I’m getting tired of Lemmy politics being even worse than Reddit.
Hey, I upvoted you. You just got here first and got the first wave of the damage.
Most people just seem to be here to vent, and we got in the way of a lot of that.
As I said, I don’t blame them for being mad, just that this particular comment wasn’t the best direction for their frustration.
I’m grateful you made your post though.
I’ll take this in good faith, so let’s rationally look at the situation.
Option 1: Biden - havent heard one person yet say Joe is perfect the way they do for Option 2. If you were to honestly look at what he’s done or is attempting to get done, there’s gotta be a few things you’d aprrove of on the list. Here’s a quick list from Politico, which is mostly non-biased and credible.
Option 2: Trump - the other frontrunner. If you think anyone other than Biden or Trump has a chance of winning the popular or EC vote, more power to you. While we definetly have some significant issues with Biden, an attempted coup, at least 1 attempted rape, abusing the office of President for profit, idolizing dictators and saying it would be fun to be one, and overturning womens’ right to choose to have children only fall on the list for 1 of the 2 candidates.
Option 3: Third Party - there is something to say for voting your principles. Some would also say there is something foolish is throwing away a well telegraphed opportunity to avoid disaster. Even if you hate both candidates, I’m sad to say barring unforeseen circumstances (and to be fair, we do have people publicly advocating taking out political enemies…) you’re likely going to end up with one of the 2 of them. If you have a key issue to you, such as the Gaza conflict, you are taking a much greater gamble on what the outcome will be. Yes, Biden is protecting one of our country’s alliances at the cost of human life. Again, I haven’t seen anyone not a nationalist agrue that. Do you feel Trump will help Gaza? Unless he’s got immediate family there or a way to profit off it, I’m going to say no.
Option 4: Don’t vote - Can’t think of any pros to this choice. You’re still getting Biden or Trump and you haven’t even done the bare minimum to accomplish anything. Neither party is hurt by your inaction.
If I’m missing any other options, please fill me in. Other than voting in primaries, there aren’t any times I can think of where I was very enthused to vote for anyone, because they’re people, not gods. They’re all flawed. They’re all going to make bad choices and do things that I dont like. Again, can you name me one president out of all of them that didnt do some really bad stuff?
You can bemoan the Electoral College or the First Past the Post system, or whatever you want, but that is the system we are in and what choices we actually have. That’s what makes so many of these posts and comments bad. Point me to anywhere on Lemmy, Reddit, or anywhere where someone has a better plan that can win this November.
So far the best we have, no matter how you want to phrase it, amounts to “get over yourself, and just vote.”