An Australian museum excluded men from an exhibit to highlight misogyny. A man sued for access and won.
Archived version: https://archive.ph/mkwF8
where are you getting “war captives”?
You don’t consider Barbary raids an act of war?
do you think a captured ship with only black non-muslims on it would’ve been captured in the first place?
do you think a coastal settlement with a population of only black non-muslims would’ve been raided for slaves?
Capitalize Black. And “Yes.” on both counts.
the same appears to be true here, just with “non-muslim” being the back-engineered justification
You can’t change race by reciting The Shahada.
And irrespective anything you have said white people have never been oppressed for being white; the original assertion which started this discussion that is only tangentially related to an OP about women excluding men from an art exhibit (they didn’t want to go to anyway) as performance art.
You don’t consider Barbary raids an act of war?
assuming i did, declaring war just so you can capture whites to sell as slaves seems kind of oppress-y to me
given that the point of contention here is whether or not it was ultimately because they were white or because they were non-muslim, i’m not sure what point you’re trying to make by re-classifying piracy as an act of war?
Capitalize Black.
i didn’t use any capital letters in my response, including on “muslim” which you’d capitalize for the same reasons you’re arguing to capitalize “black”
also, your linked source says to capitalize “white”, which you’ve done at no point so far
And “Yes.” on both counts.
i feel like we’ve hit bedrock then
i’m not sure how to convince you that pirate raids that went all the way to iceland just to avoid “muslims” probably wouldn’t raid a settlement consisting of black non-muslims
You can’t change race by reciting The Shahada.
i feel like you’re intentionally missing my point here
And irrespective anything you have said white people have never been oppressed for being white
you restating a thing doesn’t make that thing true though…?
not really sure there’s much point in going on further with this since it seems like we have pretty different reads on the topic at hand that aren’t going to be brought into alignment through further discussion
assuming i did, declaring war just so you can capture whites to sell as slaves seems kind of oppress-y to me
Where are you getting the were targeted for being white and not for being targets of opportunity?
you restating a thing doesn’t make that thing true though…?
It remains true whether or not I restate it, Was restated for you benefit since you seem to be willfully ignoring it.
I’m not sure how to convince you … probably wouldn’t raid a settlement consisting of black non-muslims
Where are you getting that? You seem to be working backwards from wanting white people to have been oppressed.
Arabs absolutely enslaved Black Africans. Any Europeans who found themselves enslaved by Barbary pirates were not targeted or oppressed for being white (as has never happened to anyone, ever); some of the Barbary pirates were European.