Lemdro.id

2 points

1 year ago

IMHO, It’s fine as long as there’s no account wide Reddit-style karma.

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bloodfart@lemmy.ml

2 points

1 year ago

Is it fine the way it’s implemented, with no vote anonymity?

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1 point

1 year ago

No, I don’t think so, but that’s a different aspect.

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bloodfart@lemmy.ml

1 point

1 year ago

Do you think the issues with voting (Samey content, lowkey groupthink, manipulation, etc) are acceptable if there was some technical solution to vote anonymity?

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1 point

1 year ago

Are you sure the issues you mentioned are caused by voting? I’m not certain, so I cannot answer your question.

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bloodfart@lemmy.ml

2 points

1 year ago

I without a doubt am.

its not the only cause but its absolutley why reddit ended up so uniquely bad in those ways. the problems were systemic and voting was a big part of that system.

think on it, you got slashdot, then digg, then reddit. they all try to run with this new method of handling both content and discussion: ranked instead of threaded. slashdot falls apart because digg does it better. digg falls apart because it has the method right, but it’s trying to be legitimate news. reddit gets huge because it recognizes the ranked model is for social media as opposed to news and leans into it with all the bells and whistles. idk if reddit falls apart.

the canaries leave reddit for the fediverse and start lemmy. but why keep the things that made reddit bad?

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1 point

1 year ago

In my opinion, the problems you mentioned are not caused by the voting system.

Groupthink is caused by a lack of discipline. Obvious hot takes or otherwise poorly formulated comments should be downvoted. Well presented contrarian opinions should be upvoted. Perhaps educating users on using the system in its intended way – promoting healthy debate or interesting insight – is better than removing the system completely.
Manipulation is caused by poor bot control, so while removing voting might help somewhat, this would be a band-aid at most. Unless you mean some sort of psyop manipulation that doesn’t involve automation, which voting can, in theory at least, help against by refuting attempts at manipulation.
Duplicated content I have only seen in connection to the nature of the fediverse so far (i.e., same topic communities spread across multiple large instances). I guess some people would try to farm internet points by posting low quality content, but if people like that content and vote for it, what’s there to be done apart from blocking the community you don’t like?

Also Lemmy’s popularity would suffer if it was missing one of the key features of Reddit (“Full vote scores (+/-) like old Reddit.” is listed as one of the main features on the official website).

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