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Yes this is literally par for the course for every single presidential campaign in history.

They promise what they’ll do. They don’t say try to do because that’s been tested in marketing and certainty sounds better. Nevertheless it’s not Biden’s fault his agenda for what he’s been voted into office on is being blocked by the opposition for poor reasons.

The question isn’t why isn’t Biden doing this, the issue is why are Republicans blocking it and why aren’t you trying to convince them and their supporters?

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If I can’t believe any of the good campaign promises from biden because everyone lies, why should we take the scary campaign promises of republicans seriously?

It really leads to apathy in the voter base.

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why should we take the scary campaign promises of republicans seriously?

Because the scary promises have support from those currently in power and are therefore much more likely to be implemented. Nice promises of change with support from the people are far less likely because the they face not only resistance from the opposing party, but the people are easily propagandized (by those currently in power) to not vote or vote against their interests.

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I dunno being visibly queer under trump didn’t feel worse than under biden.

the policies were worse but most people accepted that resisting the government was necessary. if its all that broken, this might actually be better.

maybe I’ll change my tune if the dems decide to run a candidate who isn’t dangling us over the ledge of fascism to appease his geriatric ego.

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For the same reason we take Biden seriously: Legalization has progressed in universally all blue states, has it not?

Ergo, you answered your own question: promises often come to fruition.

So let’s not risk letting Republican promises become reality, such as the promise of overturning Roe… Righhtttt?

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promises often come to fruition.

It’s more like he’s bandwagoning something that now has popular support, without actually accomplishing much.

If he was serious he could reappoint DEA and other positions. Or an executive order to be challenged in court, etc.

Both Biden and his VP are on record as being anti marijuana before this last campaign. Biden as recently as when he was VP himself.

Bidens campaign has also fired or removed staffers for prior marijuana use.

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youre trying to make yourself sound rational here and its really starting yl break down, dude.

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8 points

I’m really struggling to understand how you don’t understand how this works. I have to conclude you’re doing this in bad faith, given you implied your age is pretty high.

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What part do I not understand?

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Well, I don’t have a study backing me up, but in my experience, promising what you can’t deliver often results in being called a liar.

I really don’t know why “other candidates do it” would be an excuse. The whole pitch for voting for him is that he is supposed to be better than the other candidates. Seems like whataboutism.

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Amazing how every sentence you said has its own bad premise and a skewed conclusion.

Don’t ask - I will not elaborate.

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Someone just learned how politics work! Big day for you, huh?

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It’s not really about how politics work. It is about how human minds work. The fact that making empty promises and then excuses is more effective than being honest shows one of the reasons why democracy isn’t a good system (although it may currently be the least bad).

And just accepting the lies probably makes it worse.

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I get what you’re saying on principle, but the reality is that the world does not work like that. There’s a reason populism is often a quick way to get to power, because you just promise whatever people want to hear so you could be elected. People don’t vote based on logic, people vote based on emotion, which means people don’t consider what is realistic, they consider what speaks to them.

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You say it as if it was a good thing and not something we should strive to change.

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