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-76 points

Go on?

I attempted to sell you a car in the UK. I realize I’m unable to and issue a refund.

Fraud exists where?

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I entered into an agreement with a car manufacturer to be able to sell their cars in the UK. After I had people place orders (and pay) for a bunch of them the manufacturer decided that they were no longer supplying cars to the UK. Forcing me to issue my customers with refunds.

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Fraud exists because you were driving the car for a while with your normal drivers license and everything was perfectly fine, but now (for example) Elon says you have to get a specialized additional Tesla certification license from Tesla, but only offers it to countries whose names start with vowels because he was on a ketamine bender one night.

It’s a retroactive, unilateral change to a contract, which is generally considered legally questionable at the very least. And - you guessed it - possibly fraud.

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Correct me if I’m wrong but the game isn’t out yet on PC so no one has been playing (driving) the game.

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You’re being pedantic and you know it.

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You should look up what the word “fraud” means in a legal context.

You would have an incredibly, overwhelmingly difficult tike attempting to prove that in court at this moment.

Fraud requires intentional deception and requires you to have lost something. This is a proactive action to prevent misunderstanding and from you purchasing something that won’t work, and refunds your purchase. The loss, and the intent, are both missing.

This is categorically not fraud.

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It sounds to me like you are talking about what Steam is doing, with the geolocking and refunds (not fraud), while the other person is talking about what Sony is doing, with adding PSN requirements after the fact (maybe fraud?).

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12 points

More like I pay you for water in my house and midway in you decided to add berry flavor.

Great, now my spaghetti taste like berry, and I didn’t agree to that.

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2 points

Now I kind of want to try berry spaghetti.

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No you don’t.

And when you don’t you gotta give me a run down :)

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